Sorry.

Obviously some of us who were trying to give you advice don't meet your standards. We won't bother you in the future.

Bye-bye.

Well said JR. Like with anything, you aren't going to advance if you aren't prepared to put in the time and effort. Learning from veterans, networking, training, these are part of any occupation. To achieve takes an investment of time and effort.

Thanks for the advice, JR.

CARTER!!!:eek: Bad Boy! Bad Carter!. Now go sit in the corner.:D

Actually, here's a very important piece of advice. Take Junker's advice and go out to dinner with your wife and a Mentor and his wife. Get your wife on board with your second career. If you have her buy into how much you want to do it. If she will come out with you once in a while and watch you work, you will have a valuable resource. Its one I wish I had cultivated more. But we have 6 kids (hey why do you think she kicked me out and sent me reffing?) so she can't come out that much. She cares about what happens, but without that perspective, its hard for her to comprehend what I mean when I describe that idiot HC from V!@$**$@! HS.

Junker's advice may be one of the best of this whole thread.

Geez, if I don't have elementary reading comprehension, I must have just wasted the last 50 minutes of reading class with my 5th graders. :D Maybe I should be at one of the smaller desks, of course there are times I wish I were.

What standards? All I ask is that my posts be taken for what they're worth and I not be labeled as some greenie who is telling the veterans they're full of ****. Why is that asking too much? Can YOU read?

Ignats - Now THERE'S the best suggestion I've seen all day.

Now that is certainly the most valuable bit of information on this thread!:D

fiasco, bottom-line is that if you plan on taking this avocation seriously you will have to add some referees to your social circle. You don't have to go to bars and strip clubs with them but you will have to, at some point, have some conversations with them away from the court.

Referees have cook-outs. Referee go to sit down restaurants. Referees mill around after association meetings and talk sh!t to each other.

You speak of associating with referees as if refs are some sort of alien species. Refs are people too. I bump into an NBA official regularly at PTA assemblies and have been to the same kiddie birthday parties as his wife and son. You can make friends with other officials without frequently the local sports bar.

OK, important bit of advice #2:

Learn to deal with people, especially strangers. No matter how stupid, misguided, wrong or even right their criticism might be learn to just ignore it.

Don't forget to buy a few fox40s................nothing worse than than sounding like a Lionel train as it circles the Christmas tree.

lol. Luckily I already have a few of those.

Nope, I'm like Jeff Rutledge, I guess. Obviously, I just don't have the necessary elementary level of reading comprehension either to carry on a proper conversation at your lofty level. So....I just won't try to in the future. Please ignore everything that I have written to date.

Good luck in your officiating endeavors.

WOW!

did anyone get the number of that freight train that just whacked me? :eek:


IM SORRY! :D

Good to know. Happy trails.

Listen Rookie, no one asked you how hot your wife was. No one asked you what a priority was. You asked for advice and people that have been around the block are giving you that advice. Just like any advice, you can take it or leave it. I have my games and opportunities, I do not need to give you anything. I just think you need to understand that you came here and wanted advice. You have had an outpouring of advice from people of all levels of veterans. There were even some people that that work college ball and have a state final in their resume.

I even teach a "New Official's Class" in one of my local associations. Everything that people have told you is pretty much right on and helpful. But frankly you are going to turn off the majority of those if every comment from you is a debate. Remember, you asked for advice for officiating. And before that you tried to throw a backhanded slap to someone that has been around here a lot longer than you have. If that offends you by the response you have received, then you will have a hard time officiating. Now we want you to stay and hopefully prosper as an official. But enough with what your wife looks like and what general society thinks about our uniform. We are telling you something to make you better in the long run. You do not have to take anything we say, but understand we have all been where you are right now and we are not trying to give you information so you fail.

Peace