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26 Year Gap Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:00pm

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Originally Posted by mplagrow
In what kind of game COULD you see an official take a dive?
:D

Any Harlem Diplomats game.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Sat Feb 03, 2007 07:42pm

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Originally Posted by cshs81
You are confusing OJ with Bill Walker. OJ has never been ruled ineligibile.


OJ Mayo was ruled ineligible by the OhioHSAA. The reason being that he entered Cincinnati (Ohio) North College Hill H.S. as a freshmen in Fall 2003. He played basketball for North College Hill H.S. for three (3) years. A student-athlete is only allowed eight (8) semesters of eligilbity from the time he enters H.S. OJ Mayo was no longer eligible to play sports for any OhioHSAA member schools. He was ruled ineligible because he played H.S. basketball in Kentucky as an eighth grader during the 2002-03 school year. During the 2002-03 school year he lead Rose Hill (Kent.) Christian Acad. to the KentuckyHSAA Sweet 16 and was named First Team All-State in Kentucky.

MTD, Sr.

bigdogrunnin Sun Feb 04, 2007 01:17pm

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Originally Posted by voiceoflg

I know this issue has been "resolved," but . . . click on the link in the quote and watch the video. As Mayo walks away after receiving the first "T," watch the interaction with the capital players. There will be a "spotlight" on Mayo . . .

Did anyone else notice the elbow that the capital player (#12) throws on Mayo as he walks by?? Just curious . . . It wasn't "BAD," but in that situation, as an official, I am always looking for that kind of stuff. You think a player might retaliate in that situation . . . I do.

Jurassic Referee Sun Feb 04, 2007 03:34pm

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Originally Posted by bigdogrunnin

Did anyone else notice the elbow that the capital player (#12) throws on Mayo as he walks by?? Just curious . . . It wasn't "BAD," but in that situation, as an official, I am always looking for that kind of stuff. You think a player might retaliate in that situation . . . I do.

I watched that 5 times looking for it, and I <b>still</b> haven't seen #12 stick out an elbow. #12 was just standing there; he sureasheck didn't move into Mayo's path or anything like that. There was no need for Mayo to walk that close to him in the first place. He was just pulling the usual <i>macho</i> crap imo.

Methinks, for some reason, you're looking for an excuse for Mayo when there just isn't one on that play.

David B Sun Feb 04, 2007 04:18pm

ESPN still behind the player ... sigh!
 
sufin through ESPN and an article on Mayo's long week and the writers are still saying that the official took a dive in the game.

Do they not read the papers that where Mayo admits he bumped the ref?

I know in watching the video it all looked strange, but he bumped the ref, that;s all that matters IMO

Oh well, life continues.

Thanks
DAvid

bigdogrunnin Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:06am

Not a chance JR. Mayo has shown his true colors, and I have watched the video from 5 different camera angles . . . the ref had it right, and Mayo was WRONG! I was just curious if anyone else saw the elbow. Even the Huntington Head Coach aluded to the elbow in his written statement. You can't see the player's (#12) entire body, just the elbow come out, because one of Mayo's teammates was in the way of the camera view. #12 then backs out and raises his hands as to say, "come on, let's do it . . ." Watch the bottom of the "spotlight." The spotlight disappears and the elbow is immediately after that to Mayo's left arm/side.

Jurassic Referee Mon Feb 05, 2007 01:13pm

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Originally Posted by bigdogrunnin
Not a chance JR. Mayo has shown his true colors, and I have watched the video from 5 different camera angles . . . the ref had it right, and Mayo was WRONG! I was just curious if anyone else saw the elbow. Even the Huntington Head Coach aluded to the elbow in his written statement. You can't see the player's (#12) entire body, just the elbow come out, because one of Mayo's teammates was in the way of the camera view. #12 then backs out and raises his hands as to say, "come on, let's do it . . ." Watch the bottom of the "spotlight." The spotlight disappears and the elbow is immediately after that to Mayo's left arm/side.

Sigh.....

I think that I spotted some weapons of mass destruction down in one corner too.

You really need to let this one go, Dog.

deecee Mon Feb 05, 2007 01:17pm

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I think that I spotted some weapons of mass destruction down in one corner too.
maybe someone should point Bush jr. to this -- as clearly Saddam hid them where we all could see it -- in a HS basketball game in 2007

fullor30 Mon Feb 05, 2007 02:04pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Sigh.....

Mayo has already admitted that he brushed the official and then tangled legs. Iow, he freaking knocked the official down, intentional or not. But hey, don't believe that. It really was completely bogus. The ref deliberately planned to take that dive, just like you're saying. Yup, he planned it all the night before in a secret meeting. It's nothing but a conspiracy against the ballplayer. :eek:

Please tell me that you're not an official. You don't know any details but it's all the official's fault.

Sigh...........

Reading, like listening is a skill that will serve you well in your officiating duties.

To a casual observer with no 'axe' to grind(swallow your whistle) has to agree it looks like a flop. And in my opinion from the tape only, the second T was pretty quick and again, I don't know what was said and am only going by the tape. And please supply the quote that I said he deliberately planned to take a dive or that I said it was his fault.

At your next clinic, I suggest spending extra time on conflict and resolution.
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deecee Mon Feb 05, 2007 02:09pm

fullor30 -- you should maybe prescribe yourself your own medication.

OJ admitted to bumping -- whether or not Lazzo overacted is not for anyone to decide -- OJ bumped him and whether he fell or not doesnt change that fact.

Quick T -- your opinion -- it counts for less than a sportcasters knowledge of the rules -- and in the tape you CAN hear what is going on and you know the WHOLE events of the game and what happened.

Jurassic Referee Mon Feb 05, 2007 02:32pm

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Originally Posted by fullor30
To a casual observer with no 'axe' to grind(swallow your whistle) has to agree it looks like a flop.

And when you talked to the official to get his side, what did he tell you?

I'm a casual observer with no axe to grind and I can't see how anyone can flop when he gets hit from <b>behind</b>. He isn't even looking at Mayo when the contact occurs. And again, Mayo already has admitted that he caused the contact and also tangled legs. Don't let that little piece of information stop you though.The only ones still crying "conspiracy" and "WWE flops" are the fanboys. And you.

fullor30 Mon Feb 05, 2007 02:48pm

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Originally Posted by deecee
fullor30 -- you should maybe prescribe yourself your own medication.

OJ admitted to bumping -- whether or not Lazzo overacted is not for anyone to decide -- OJ bumped him and whether he fell or not doesnt change that fact.

Quick T -- your opinion -- it counts for less than a sportcasters knowledge of the rules -- and in the tape you CAN hear what is going on and you know the WHOLE events of the game and what happened.

Deecee...........again, I'm only making an observation from the tape. I'm not making a judgement of intent be it malice or incidental. Of course he bumped him, of course he should be suspended. My point AGAIN, is that by the tape ONLY, the fall looks suspect. Anyone who thinks he flopped or planned this of course dead wrong.Lazo probably had no idea who was behind him and it could have been his partner who caused him to fall. All I'm commenting on is the physical aspect of the fall and glad it wasn't me.

My 10 year old saw it and thought the fall was embellished, nothing more,nothing less. He had no idea who the player was, nor the situation.

Strictly an observation

Jurassic Referee Mon Feb 05, 2007 03:03pm

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Originally Posted by fullor30
My point AGAIN, is that by the tape ONLY, the fall looks suspect.

Anyone who thinks he flopped or planned this of course dead wrong.

You're talking out of both sides of your mouth. You're saying that he flopped but anybody who thinks that he flopped is wrong. Fullor, <b>you're</b> the one that thinks that he flopped, and you posted as such.

Your exact words were <i>"but by the tape of the 'flop', it looks more bogus than a WWF main event.</i>

fullor30 Mon Feb 05, 2007 03:24pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
You're talking out of both sides of your mouth. You're saying that he flopped but anybody who thinks that he flopped is wrong. Fullor, <b>you're</b> the one that thinks that he flopped, and you posted as such.

Your exact words were <i>"but by the tape of the 'flop', it looks more bogus than a WWF main event.</i>

Precisely, anyone looking at the tape WITHOUT knowing the particulars would be inclined IMHO that it looks theatrical. In addition using the word BUT in any instance dismisses the previous statement. Also, the fall is described on youtube as the fosbury flop hence italics around 'flop'.

Next you'll want me to diagram my sentences. Any dangling participles?

Jurassic Referee Mon Feb 05, 2007 03:34pm

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Originally Posted by fullor30
Precisely, anyone looking at the tape WITHOUT knowing the particulars would be inclined IMHO that it looks theatrical.

There's where we disagree. Fanboys would think that. Officials wouldn't.


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