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Back In The Saddle Sun Jan 28, 2007 01:23am

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Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan
Because he was trying to get to me. He wanted the "T"

AND, if I "T" him up, I have to write a report as to WHY I "T"ed him up. If he were winning, he would have gotten the "T", If it were a close game, he would have gotten it. but down 30, what's it going to do?

Let me see if I understand this, you let him carry on, being a distraction and disruption, flaunting the rules, acheiving unrivaled levels of unpenalized unsportsmanship all because...what? Because you decided to dig your heels in and not give him what he wanted? My children play that same stupid game too. I'm pretty sure they'll outgrow it.

Who the hell cares whether or not he wants it, and if he does, why. That is entirely not our concern. We are there to enforce the rules, and that includes penalizing poor sportsmanship when it happens. To not take care of business is to do a disservice to the game, to the players, to the other coach, to your partners, to Grandma Millie who came to watch little Sally play and has to endure the debacle you're allowing, to the crews that follow you and will have to work harder to clean up your mess.

Bottom line, he f'ed up your game, and you helped him do it.

Terrapins Fan Sun Jan 28, 2007 09:15am

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you let him carry on, being a distraction and disruption,
No, I ignored him. He did not have an effect on my game at all. I thought it was harrilous how he was embarrassing himself and his team and his fans. THEY need to have him removed. If I "T" him up, it looks like the officials are against him and that why they lost. It's his excuse. He has no excuse because we didn't do it.

I didn't "T" him up and neither did my partner, he also had the choice. He agreed with me, we did the right thing.

I guess you had to be there.:)

Jurassic Referee Sun Jan 28, 2007 09:33am

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Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan
I thought it was harrilous how he was embarrassing himself and his team and his fans.

If I "T" him up, it looks like the officials are against him and that why they lost. It's his excuse.

It's also ridiculous how badly you're embarrassing <b>yourself</b> by posting such nonsense. The coach, the team and it's fans all knew what was going on. Anybody watching that game could see what was going on. You just didn't have the balls to make the <b>right</b> call.

You're saying that if you call a technical foul, it makes it look like the officials are against the recipient? There isn't another official in the world that's gonna buy that particular crock of doodoo, Fan. That's just another excuse you're trying to use to justify your complete lack of testicular fortitude. One of an seemingly endless array of excuses too.

You ain't gonna like that but there it is.

Terrapins Fan Sun Jan 28, 2007 07:24pm

JR,
I have guys in my association that have not "T"ed up a coach in over 30 years as an official. I tossed one 2 weeks ago. I have called about 4 or 5 this year. So You are wrong that I don't the balls. I do. I will use the "T" when I believe it is needed. I do not believe that calling a "T" in that situation would have changed the game. The visitors were down by 30, the subs were all in and losing. If it's a game under 10 points, him losing the ball, 2 free throw and the other team getting the ball can be a 6 point difference...it's a good call there.

Look at it this way, in a game that has a 20 point or more spread do you call the game the same as a game with a 5 point spread?

mplagrow Sun Jan 28, 2007 07:49pm

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Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan
I will use the "T" when I believe it is needed. I do not believe that calling a "T" in that situation would have changed the game.

So from now on, I should only call T's that will change the game. Check.

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Originally Posted by TERRAPINS FAN
Look at it this way, in a game that has a 20 point or more spread do you call the game the same as a game with a 5 point spread?

Let me say it for you, JR. Lah, me. . . .

Jurassic Referee Sun Jan 28, 2007 08:13pm

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Originally Posted by mplagrow
So from now on, I should only call T's that will change the game. Check.

You got 'er. If a coach calls you an azzhole(oh...about 14 times), fuggedaboutit because it won't change the game.

Another interesting game management theory.....:)

Jurassic Referee Sun Jan 28, 2007 08:23pm

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Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan
JR,
I have guys in my association that have not "T"ed up a coach in over 30 years as an official. I tossed one 2 weeks ago. I have called about 4 or 5 this year. So You are wrong that I don't the balls. I do.

Other situations aren't relevant. What other officials do, did or don't do isn't relevant either. The only relevant thing is what happened in that particular game that you posted about. in that game, the coach b!tch-slapped you around like a red-headed stepchild. And you just meekly took it without doing or saying anything. Multi times too. That's simply embarrasing to all other officials as far as I'm concerned.

You can make up excuses from here to next year. I personally ain't buying any of 'em. But hey, the good thing though is that it's just my opinion. It really doesn't mean anything anyway.

Might as well let 'er go. I am. I'm just repeating myself now anyway.

Adam Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:30pm

Changing the game doesn't mean affecting the score or the winner's identity. It can also mean calming things down and getting the coach under control. When I called the T in my JV game (called it on the losing coach who was down by 35 at the time), it shut him up the rest of the game. That's how my game changed, and it changed it for the better.

Terrapins Fan Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:34pm

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it shut him up the rest of the game.
The rest of the game in this case was under 3 minutes.

fonzzy07 Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:22pm

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Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan
The rest of the game in this case was under 3 minutes.

3 Quite minutes!!!!:D

swkansasref33 Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:51pm

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Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan
The rest of the game in this case was under 3 minutes.

I threw a T in a JV girls game with about 3 minutes to go on a team that was down 30. bottom line, i didnt hear one peep from their bench the rest of the game. It was so much more peaceful, and it was so much easier to concentrate on the game. I would T up a coach after the end of the 4th quarter if he deserved it. Say he walks up to me after the game, on the court and says "YOU F*CKIN SUCK!" BEEP! peace coach... ur outta here, im writin up my report, and ur A.D. is gonna be on ur @$$ about it


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