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rainmaker Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:30am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
Do you two have an announcement you'd like to make?

He already made it. I'm always right from now on. End of discussion.

Rich Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:55am

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Originally Posted by rainmaker
He already made it. I'm always right from now on. End of discussion.

Oh, oh....BS!

:D

Adam Fri Jan 26, 2007 01:37am

I'm not in agreement here. While I think it's not common, I think the rules allow for a block/charge just as they allow for a double foul away from the ball. It's very possible for two players to foul each other simultaneously; even if one has the ball.

A1 dribbling down the court holding up an "arm bar" and pushing B1 just as B1 is reaching and hacking the dribbling arm. What do you call?

Or A1 extending his arm to push B1 who is moving but not in LGP; both players fall. What do you call?

Adam Fri Jan 26, 2007 01:39am

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Originally Posted by rainmaker
He already made it. I'm always right from now on. End of discussion.

You know, I have reached the same agreement with...wait for it... my wife. :D

I'm just sayin'.

Jurassic Referee Fri Jan 26, 2007 02:24am

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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
I have argued this point for years. The rules as written prohibit blarges.

Are you saying that case book play 4.19.8SitC doesn't exist, Mark? Or that you refuse to follow it?

Please elaborate.

Jurassic Referee Fri Jan 26, 2007 02:26am

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Originally Posted by swkansasref33
so what do we have for the signal? one hand behind ur head indicating charge, one fist moving down towards your hip indicating block, and one leg pointing the direction we are goin?:eek: :D

The problem with a blarge is that the signals have already been made. That's the unfortunate part.

Camron Rust Fri Jan 26, 2007 04:16am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
I'm not in agreement here. While I think it's not common, I think the rules allow for a block/charge just as they allow for a double foul away from the ball. It's very possible for two players to foul each other simultaneously; even if one has the ball.

A1 dribbling down the court holding up an "arm bar" and pushing B1 just as B1 is reaching and hacking the dribbling arm. What do you call?

Or A1 extending his arm to push B1 who is moving but not in LGP; both players fall. What do you call?

That's is not a blarge. What you've described is a bareach (in layman's terms) or an illegal use of push. In your second one, it's a blush. ;)

rainmaker Fri Jan 26, 2007 07:06am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
You know, I have reached the same agreement with...wait for it... my wife. :D

I'm just sayin'.

Your wife works for the...wait for it... SEC?

IREFU2 Fri Jan 26, 2007 08:39am

Nfhs
 
I think this rule should be changed like in the NCAA-W League. If you have a so called blarge, come together and try and decided the call. Or, NO PRELIMS!!!!

IREFU2 Fri Jan 26, 2007 09:23am

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
And the same official that stated all of the above just stated in another thread while trying to justify his reasoning to make a call--<i><b>"Btw, the rulebook is there to be enforced.."</b></i>.

Enforced or <b>selectively</b> enforced?

I guess it just depends on the way that wind is blowing,eh?:rolleyes:

I would respond, but its Friday and naaaaaa......forget it.

JRutledge Fri Jan 26, 2007 09:29am

Yeah, really fair.
 
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Originally Posted by IREFU2
I think this rule should be changed like in the NCAA-W League. If you have a so called blarge, come together and try and decided the call. Or, NO PRELIMS!!!!

Yeah, and the coach who got the call against them is going to be really happy that you choose them as the only foul. Now that other call you did not give them, they really are going to think they got screwed on that play. Considering you had to come together and make a decision. Really good rule. :rolleyes:

Peace

Raymond Fri Jan 26, 2007 09:29am

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
And the same official that stated all of the above just stated in another thread while trying to justify his reasoning to make a call--<i><b>"Btw, the rulebook is there to be enforced.."</b></i>.

Enforced or <b>selectively</b> enforced?

I guess it just depends on the way that wind is blowing,eh?:rolleyes:

JR, you are confusing iref4him with IREF4U.

Unless, of course, you are saying that in your case that u and him are the same person. Which would mean that Jurassic thinks he is....wait, here it comes......God. It's true, it's true!!!:p

IREFU2 Fri Jan 26, 2007 09:32am

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef
JR, you are confusing iref4him with IREF4U.

Unless, of course, you are saying that in your case that u and him are the same person. Which would mean that Jurassic thinks he is....wait, here it comes......God. It's true, it's true!!!:p

Nope he is referring to my post somewhere else.....just another case of mass confusion and trying to be in two places at one time. By the way, I am the jacket carrier tomorrow!!!!

Raymond Fri Jan 26, 2007 09:34am

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Originally Posted by IREFU2
Nope he is referring to my post somewhere else.....just another case of mass confusion and trying to be in two places at one time. By the way, I am the jacket carrier tomorrow!!!!

He's referring to iref4him in this thread and IREF4U in the "Dukies" thread. Trust me, I know of what I speak. That's why I'm the 'R' tomorrow. :cool:

All_Heart Fri Jan 26, 2007 09:38am

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The case book isn't "rules"
All I had to do was read this. If he would have posted this in the beginning then it would have saved me the trouble of reading his post. I don't have a problem with him having an opinion on how it should be handled but to say that you are WRONG to administer it the way the rule book says is ludicrous.


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