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Originally Posted by deecee

of course this isnt going to happen during a JV game, because its a JV game...

how did this interfere with the orderly progress? -- how were the players getting distracted? -- this sounds like you are trying to justify a position most here disagree with

if you just say we did it because we felt it was the right thing to do and we wanted to -- then fine -- I honestly dont have see anything wrong with what you did if what you say about disruption and orderly progress and what not. however I do not see that -- were they in the way of throw ins, were they harrasing the team verbally (and I dont mean funny chants, I mean harrasing), were they threatning anyone. I just would like clarification because I dont ever get to work in a gym with that much space and should this happen from what I read I dont see much I can do or would do about it -- but any extra light could help should this ever come up

Okay, if you have 15 or so fans running down the court opposite the table, chanting bounce, bounce(evertime the ball is bounced) and then pass, pass (everytime the ball is being passed), then shot, shot (on every shot) by the visiting team, you dont have a problem with that? It is distracting to the table, the teams as well as the officials. I am not trying to justify anything because I did what I felt was correct and actually people in the stands clapped and the fake dukies appologized for their actions. I hope this brings the light on for you.

thats fine -- i actually think thats funny and great -- but then again i dont see a problem with this type of enthusiasm -- now which people in the stands clapped -- i will bet you it was the visiting teams fans.

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Originally Posted by deecee

Both sides clapped, I guess the show was getting old for everyone!!!

I guess the question would be then why are you policing the fans when it doesnt have anything to do with the game -- sounds like the fans should have compalined to management and they should have taken care of it -- thats all

I just DONT see why the official involvement -- but then again I really get in the zone and I DO tend to miss somethings that I should hear but its just an old habit from shooting free throws -- its just me and the court.

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Originally Posted by IREFU2

Personally, no, unless they actually interfere with the game somehow. And again, personally, I don't think that they are interfering with play when they do this.

And "chanting" should never be a factor. Fans chant. Nothing the matter with it, especially when it's something as innocent as chanting "bounce, bounce" or "pass, pass".

Okay, maybe we do things different in VA. and its clear that our judgement is not the same and thats okay, so lets just leave it as a judgement call on my behalf and end this thread. I will bring it up at our meeting in Feb and get some clarification. But if I had to do it again, I would and will.

when i read that post about what they were doing it and I got a mental image I laughed -- I think its great and humorous. In fact in this game it would probably put a smile on my fact the first couple of times and get old fast -- but what the heck after all we always claim its for the kids -- when in reality its NOT. (remember I dont care for the kids). I wish when I was in HS we had these types of fans -- wait yes we did

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Originally Posted by IREFU2

Maybe I am being anal about the situation, but this is what I found in the rule book. I believe running up and down the sidelines chanting at the visiting team qualifies for the statement in bold. Trust me, if you were there, you would agree!!!:D

SECTION 8 OFFICIALS' ADDITIONAL DUTIES
The officials shall:
ART. 1 . . . Penalize unsporting conduct by any player, coach, substitute, team attendant or follower.
NOTE: The home management or game committee is responsible for spectator behavior, insofar as it can reasonably be expected to control the spectators. The officials may call fouls on either team if its supporters act in such a way as to interfere with the proper conduct of the game. Discretion must be used in calling such fouls, however, lest a team be unjustly penalized. When team supporters become unruly or interfere with the orderly progress of the game, the officials shall stop the game until the host management resolves the situation and the game can proceed in an orderly manner. In the absence of a designated school representative, the home coach shall serve as the host management.

I love when people come on here, post something, and then get defensive when others say they could've handled it differently. Pulling out the rule book to find something that allows you to do something? Weak, weak.

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Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

Not defensive at all. Just when people post, they need to remember that they werent there nor that their judgement may have warranted a different outcome. Its all love baby......as BadNew would say. BTW, the rule book is there to be enforced, not to back up what I did or didnt do.

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Oh?:rolleyes: Even on a blarge? Does that mean case book play 4.19.8SitC should be enforced too now?

See my comment on the Blarge in the blarge post.

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Originally Posted by IREFU2

See my comment on the Blarge in the blarge post.

See my comments in the blarge post also. I deleted the posts. They were mistakenly made and I have apologized to both parties.

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

See my comments in the blarge post also. I deleted the posts. They were mistakenly made and I have apologized to both parties.

No problem.....apology accepted!!!!