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Terrapins Fan Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:05am

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we had only played 6 minutes at the time. I couldn't believe I was T-ing the AC this early in the game.
I "T"ed up a head coach 2 weeks ago in less than 2 minutes in the game....talk about a short fuse..mine was very short that night.

Raymond Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:15am

Two seasons ago I T'd a coach 4 minutes into the first game of the season. It's the one time I used the stop sign :eek:. Didn't work too well b/c the coach proceeded to walk out of his coach's box while continuing his belly-aching, so then I had to use the sTop sign!!! :D

Junker Thu Jan 25, 2007 09:17am

I agree with most here. The first time I hear anything from an assistant I talk to the head coach, the second (and there shouldn't be one) I use the T. It sounds like maybe you could have talked to the HC in your situation. I think I've warned coaches about assistants about once a week this season. Tuesday night a HC had a question (i.e. complaint but in a nice way) and as I was talking to him the AC jumped in with his opinion. I just said, "Coach, we are more than happy to answer your questions tonight, but we will not be listening to anything from your assistants." We didn't hear from him again. On the other bench, I had a similar situation, but as the assistant coach started to give his opinion, he realized he was going to get himself in trouble and put a finger to his own mouth and shushed himself. I thought it was pretty funn.

Ref Daddy Thu Jan 25, 2007 10:06am

I am pleased with my year in dealing with theaterical coach's. I have no T's all year.

That said , assisstant's are another issue completly. There is WAY too much going on in a game to add in 2 assisstants to have to talk to, monitor, listen to, please, respond to, etc.

Do yourself a favor and control them early and ONCE.

truerookie Thu Jan 25, 2007 06:36pm

My fellow officials,
unlike Old School, I understand what goes on:D . I would not give an immediatley T in that situation. I know to inform the coach. I have done it in the past. I also know it's about communication with the HC. I like being that individual who likes to present an alternative perspective:D Other comments?

JRutledge Thu Jan 25, 2007 06:58pm

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Originally Posted by truerookie
My fellow officials,
unlike Old School, I understand what goes on:D . I would not give an immediatley T in that situation. I know to inform the coach. I have done it in the past. I also know it's about communication with the HC. I like being that individual who likes to present an alternative perspective:D Other comments?

The reason I do not want to give an immediate T, because I think it looks better that you addressed a situation and you give a T after a clear warning. That does not mean you do not ever T a coach for getting out of hand on the first bad behavior. I just think if all the coach is doing is crying for a travel, hand check or some little foul, go to the HC and give them a chance to correct it. If they cannot handle their coach, then it is T time.

I know I have been criticized for saying this before, but if you have a certain presence and know how to talk to a HC, you can eliminate a lot of problems. I have also found that if you address the behavior and not the issue that they are complaining about, then you might find out you will not need to give a T at all. I had two coaches after I said something to the HC turn around and say, "Will you guys shut up!!"

Peace

swkansasref33 Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:41pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge
The reason I do not want to give an immediate T, because I think it looks better that you addressed a situation and you give a T after a clear warning. That does not mean you do not ever T a coach for getting out of hand on the first bad behavior. I just think if all the coach is doing is crying for a travel, hand check or some little foul, go to the HC and give them a chance to correct it. If they cannot handle their coach, then it is T time.

I know I have been criticized for saying this before, but if you have a certain presence and know how to talk to a HC, you can eliminate a lot of problems. I have also found that if you address the behavior and not the issue that they are complaining about, then you might find out you will not need to give a T at all. I had two coaches after I said something to the HC turn around and say, "Will you guys shut up!!"

Peace


what happens when u warn the coach and he turns around and says "will you guys shut the !@#$ up?!" haha

JRutledge Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:45pm

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Originally Posted by swkansasref33
what happens when u warn the coach and he turns around and says "will you guys shut the !@#$ up?!" haha

Nothing. I do not get involved in what teams say to each other.

Peace

Adam Fri Jan 26, 2007 01:32am

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Originally Posted by swkansasref33
what happens when u warn the coach and he turns around and says "will you guys shut the !@#$ up?!"

That would be a regional thing and depend on what word you're editing. :)

Back In The Saddle Fri Jan 26, 2007 03:08am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
That would be a regional thing and depend on what word you're editing. :)

Of course your life experience may lead you to react differently to that word. That word may offend you, but I may find it to not be offensive. :D


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