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Old Sun Jan 21, 2007, 08:34pm
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really ugly 7th grade boys' game. lots and lots of fouls that we passed on because the clock was ticking on toward the next game. Both coaches complaining about the no-calls about equally. 3rd quarter, in front of V coach, who's ahead by about 12 or so, ball turns over and we're racing back the other way. I'm new trail, watching the press. As I run up the sideline right next to the coach, he jumps up and lands on one stomping foot and then the other, simultaneously throwing his hands straight up in the air, right in front of my face, and shouting (loud enough that my partner on the far endline heard him), "Wwwaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!!!" See title. Sheez.
Rainmaker...I have no problem with running the coach based on his behavior (particularly as you expanded on it in a later post). However............

Like others before me in this thread, I question the boldfaced line above even if it was, as you amplified on in another subsequent post, the local "philosophy". That's a bad, bad philosophy and I would take the heat from fellow officials/site administrators for dorking up their schedule before I would adopt it. And I suspect the schools involved expected an honestly officiated game.

The game is about the kids, not the coaches, not the parents, not the officials, not the game administrators, not the schedule, etc, etc, etc. Particularly at the 7th grade level where coaching and physical/basketball IQ and skills may not be so advanced.

Finally, two questions...
1) Was the eventually ejected coach aware of this "philosophy"?
2) If so, did he agree to it?

If the answer to either is no, then it's difficult to fault him if foul after foul after foul is not called.
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Old Sun Jan 21, 2007, 10:41pm
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really ugly 7th grade boys' game. lots and lots of fouls that we passed on because the clock was ticking on toward the next game. Both coaches complaining about the no-calls about equally. 3rd quarter, in front of V coach, who's ahead by about 12 or so, ball turns over and we're racing back the other way. I'm new trail, watching the press. As I run up the sideline right next to the coach, he jumps up and lands on one stomping foot and then the other, simultaneously throwing his hands straight up in the air, right in front of my face, and shouting (loud enough that my partner on the far endline heard him), "Wwwaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!!!" See title. Sheez.
Do you still write an article for the paid portion of this site? Thanks for reminding me again why I don't subscribe to that. While the humor many of my officiating friends and I find in posts like this may be worth a few bucks, in the long run, the complete disregard for and misapplication of the game surely won't make me a better official.

Carry on rant.
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Old Mon Jan 22, 2007, 12:26pm
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Do you still write an article for the paid portion of this site? Thanks for reminding me again why I don't subscribe to that. While the humor many of my officiating friends and I find in posts like this may be worth a few bucks, in the long run, the complete disregard for and misapplication of the game surely won't make me a better official.

Carry on rant.
Wow...nothing like being judgemental to start off the week on a good note.
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Old Sun Jan 21, 2007, 10:58pm
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lots and lots of fouls that we passed on because the clock was ticking on toward the next game.
I have no idea if the coach deserved to be ejected or not. That's entirely your call. However, I would never change my reffing style because of time constraints. Just ref your usual game. Time constraints are not your concern.
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Old Mon Jan 22, 2007, 12:43am
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lots and lots of fouls that we passed on because the clock was ticking on toward the next game.

You are not the first to take this approach, but I personally find it totally unacceptable.

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I wasn't on my turf, just helping out a friend, and I didn't realize the philosophy before I got into it. ........
it didn't seem to me that I had the right to impose myself on a whole different situation than I'm used to.
I'm not sure I understand what this part means. You are there to call 1/3 or 1/2 of a ball game, it seems to me quite necessary to "impose yourself" on the situation. Where exactly was this, as opposed to "your turf"?

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........we didn't pass on anything important,.......... We called what needed to be called........ we just started letting a lot of the A/D borderline stuff go. I can't see how that's selling my soul for a mess of pottage.

This sounds a lot like backpeddling to me. I'm not sure what pottage is. Anything like potted meat? Careful, you know what they say is in there.

All right, then.*


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