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Old Fri Jan 19, 2007, 01:58pm
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Sub Rule Basis ....

I've pondered why there is no substitutions allowed on the first of two free throws.

Any knowledge on logic as to WHY they are held at the table until after shot # 1?

- avoiding constant substitutions?
- not slowing the game down?
- protecting the new players from a lane foul?
- repalcing just for a rebound?
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Old Fri Jan 19, 2007, 02:02pm
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I've pondered why there is no substitutions allowed on the first of two free throws.

Any knowledge on logic as to WHY they are held at the table until after shot # 1?

- avoiding constant substitutions?
- not slowing the game down?
- protecting the new players from a lane foul?
- repalcing just for a rebound?
More than anything, I think this is a time saving issue. If you let players enter/exit before the first FT, then you have more subs come to the table during that FT, you have to go through the whole routine again.
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Old Fri Jan 19, 2007, 02:04pm
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Yup, it's just to speed the game up. That's also why when we do allow a player to substitute before the first shot (for injury, dq, blood, etc.), we let them all come in.
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Old Mon Jan 22, 2007, 03:17pm
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I don't remember exactly when this changed, but it was within the last ten years. Before that change subs could enter prior to the first FT. The NFHS committee made the change to speed up the game, so that the sub process doesn't take place twice as W&S wrote.
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Old Mon Jan 22, 2007, 03:24pm
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Good thing the topic of substititing was brought up.

Are players allowed to substitute after the end of the 2nd shot even if it's a substitute for a non-shooter? IF so, why? Doesn't that slow down the game and give an advantage to the defensive team b/c they are allowed to set up their defense??

I've always had thoughts about that rule.
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Old Mon Jan 22, 2007, 03:29pm
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Depending on the shooter at the line you could have anywhere from a 90% to a 25% chance that the second shot is going in. If its missed, play on...
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Old Mon Jan 22, 2007, 03:30pm
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Good thing the topic of substititing was brought up.

Are players allowed to substitute after the end of the 2nd shot even if it's a substitute for a non-shooter? IF so, why? Doesn't that slow down the game and give an advantage to the defensive team b/c they are allowed to set up their defense??

I've always had thoughts about that rule.
The answer to your question is yes, if the FT is made, because that's the rule. It does let the defense set up if they properly utilize this opportunity.
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