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Unless you have definite knowledge of how much time should be put back, you can't put any back. And 1.2 is not the correct amount to put back becasue the clock should have started when the ball was rebounded. Perhaps the time should be 0.8 or 0.9, but not 1.2. But, since you don't know, you can't put any back. To put 1.2 back gives the rebounding team more time than they deserve. They would now get to advance the ball down the court with a throwin pass such that the clock would only start on the catch...possibly in a shooting position. If the clock had been properly started, the team would have been forced to make that pass with the clock running (or call a timeout if they had any left). To put 1.2 back would allow a team an undeserved chance to win the game due to a timing error. |
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The rule has two parts...one, definite knowledge and two, counts MAY be used to aquire it. We have definite knowledge of the time, 1.2, there just is not any rule support either way, because it does not specifically cover this situation. |
it most certainly does cover it
We have definite knowledge of how much time should have been on the clock when anyone touched it...1.2 seconds. A count may be used to determine time used. Did we have a count, not according to the original post. No count, no definite knowledge of time remaining, no way to put time back on the clock by rule. It sucks, but mistakes happen. We always say officials don't cost teams the game, they most likely missed a free throw, committed turnovers etc etc. This falls in the same category, it happens at a very inopportune time, but did this one mistake cost anyone the game....I doubt it, because right here right now, we do have a missed free throw.....
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You can argue it all day long but this particular play isn't definitively covered. |
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You still haven't addressed my alternate version with 5 seconds instead of 1.2...what if the timer started it just before release and all 5 seconds ran off just as the ball is touched? Even if you started a count in this situation, 1.2, is half an arm flick .4, .5, or .6 seconds? Is that really definite knowledge?;) The problem is we need working officials revising the rules and making rule changes. |
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Due to an extensive musical background where you must keep accurate time and also break beats into segments that can be as little as tenths of a second, I have a very good sense of time even down to parts of a second. I'm going to just "know" how much of a second passed between the catch and the horn. |
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And you managed to type that with a straight face too. Yer good......:D |
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That said...whether you change the clock or not you are "fabricating" something. "I dunno, leave the clock where it is" is exactly the same as "err....let's put 5.2 seconds back up." Think about it, I'm sure you can agree. Or get someone to explain it to you. |
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