Correctible Error
 

High School Game.

Here is the sit. as it was explained to me.
team A is shooting the first free throw of a double bonus foul. Confussion begins and the first shot is missed, rebounded and play begins going in team B's direction. Whistle, play is stopped. Official realizes that it was supposed to be 2 shots not a 1 and 1 situation. Officials line players back up at team A's free throw lane and attempt 2nd shot only. Basket is good. Play resumes with team B taking the ball out a POI.

Is this the correct procedure?

Should the officials have cancelled all action up to the point of interruption, and reshot both foul shots with play continuing after the 2nd attempt?

It depends. Did the officials announce 1 shot (or 1-1) or two? Did "everyone" go for the rebound or "only one" player? Did the officials kill play immediately or "after a while?"


The only sure things are that the first throw shouldn't be shot over, and the second FT should be attempted.

Depends. What did the administering official say to the kids prior to the first shot? If he said "2 shots," go back and line them up for the 2nd shot. If he said, "One and one," go back and have A1 shoot the 2nd shot and give B the ball for POI.

What the official said has no bearing in this situation. It applies when there should be 1-and-1 or only 1 shot and the official announces 2 shots.

From what i was told, they stopped play after team B got in their frontcourt. I was told they announced '2 shots'.

I say you line all back up and shot required 2nd shot, with play resuming as normal on the result of 2nd shot.

This is a correctible error. Not awarding a merited free throw. Shoot the second shot with the lane cleared, then give B the ball at POI.

What if second shot is missed? Team A could rebound the miss and get a possible shot off. Or does this not matter since officials allow this to become a correctible situation.

It does apply, because if the official announced two shots and the players still rebounded and played on, it's not a correctible error. Line 'em up and shoot the 2nd shot.
If the official made the mistake and said "one and one" or "one shot," then it's a correctible error.

It would still be a failure to award a merited free throw. In not killing the play immediately the officials failed to award a merited free throw.

True, but personally, my threshold for "immediately" changes based on what the official says. If he says "two shots," and they blow the whistle within a couple of seconds (how many don't have their whistle in their mouth on the first of two?), which is all it takes for B to get most of the way down the floor, I consider that immediately.
If the official says "one" and everyone goes for a rebound, then it's a correctible error as soon as the ball is rebounded.

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there is not real concensus here
 

some maybe most but certainly not all of us out here think that the awarding of the free throw or not awarding of the free throw is the announcement of ok guys/gals, we are shooting 2 or shooting 1 and a bonus etc....if you announce we are shooting 2 then you properly awarded 2 throws, if the rebounding action takes place kill it when you realize that they didn't "hear" you and shoot the second one.

Why not? The player had right to 2 FT, no matter what the official said.
What difference does this make? It's not the same as handing the ball to the wrong team for a throw in (which is not covered under the correctable errors).

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I would agree to line up the teams and shoot the second free throw IF no time ran off the clock. Once time runs off the clock, and the officials don't stop it, the clock has "properly started" and this is now a correctable (ty) error situation.

In either case, the 2nd FT will be awarded....the player still earned it.

The difference is what else happens...

If 1+1 was announced, the rebound was earned and if by the defending team, they get to keep it....they don't have to also get the 2nd rebound to get the ball.

If 2 was announced, the rebound was not earned. It was a dead ball.

Time off the clock is irrelevant. Assuming the lead announced two shots and the trail didn't chop time in, the clock running is a timer's error. Put the time back on and line 'em up to shoot the 2nd shot.

Had a sitch once where the table said 1+1. As the shooter begins the motion the buzzer buzzes - we let the play continue: offensive reb, good basket, foul. Table still buzzing - says should have been 2! CRAP! Amazingly we got it right.

Count the bucket - shoot the and 1 then go to POI and shoot the second shot.

Tough to explain to stupid coaches but we made it though it . . .

You made that post before and it was deleted. You've made simialr posts in other threads and they too have been deleted. Don't make them again, please.

It is too relavent. If the officials let the play continue without killing it immediately upon the rebound you have then created a correctable error situation by letting the play continue down the court with the clock running.

Allowing the rebound and eventual trip up the court means the free throw has ended. It is now too late to cancel any subsequent action.

I disagree, but it might be based on how I am seeing the OP.
Foul called, and scorer tells the reporting official that it's a double-bonus shot. Clock keeper misses this and is still thinking one-and-one. Administering official tells the kids "two shots."
First shot goes up and misses, B1 gets the rebound in spite of ref's words and sprints the other way. Clock keeper meanwhile, already started the clock on the rebound because he thought it was live on a miss. Both refs take about two seconds to get their whistles in their mouths (it's the first of two, remember) and kill the play.
The refs didn't fail to award anything, the kids just didn't listen and the clock keeper was sleeping. Put the time back on and line 'm up.
What matters is what the administering official said; not whether or not time came off the clock. Now, if the refs ran down and set up with the new offense before realizing it, you're right. But it's not because time came off the clock.

That's what I envisioned. I also would say it's the officials who were sleeping and whistles should still be in our mouths for all free throws.

It's funny we're talking about this. Had my first C.E. today in a GV game. We have a foul on a made basket; one free throw. I'm T, the C signals one shot. The lead, however, says "two" as he administers it. B3 and B4 casually walk into the lane and B3 grabs the ball and tosses it to my partner, who suddenly realizes what happened.
He got it right and immediately called for the arrow.