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kevin g. Thu Jan 11, 2007 09:01pm

running clock?
 
where in the rules book does it say how big of a point lead you need to activate a running clock? We did it at forty points. Im in Michigan

mjbofficial Thu Jan 11, 2007 09:05pm

In Illinois, it's 30 points, but not until the 4th Q starts.

mplagrow Thu Jan 11, 2007 09:07pm

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Originally Posted by kevin g.
where in the rules book does it say how big of a point lead you need to activate a running clock? We did it at forty points.

To answer your question, nothing is in the NFHS book about a running clock. However, different states may have their own additional rules about it.

Jurassic Referee Thu Jan 11, 2007 09:09pm

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Originally Posted by kevin g.
where in the rules book does it say how big of a point lead you need to activate a running clock? We did it at forty points.

It is not in the NFHS rule book. There might be a state or league rule issued separately for a particular area.

BillyMac Thu Jan 11, 2007 09:43pm

NFHS Running Clock
 
2006-07 NFHS Basketball Rule Book, page 68, State Association Adoptions, State associations may individually adopt specific coverage in the following: #6 Authorizing use of a running clock when a specified point differential is reached; page43, rule 5, Section 5, Note: A state association by adoption may institute a running clock when a specified point differential is reached at a specified time in the game.

These are the only references that I can find regarding a running clock in the NFHS Rule Book.

Nevadaref Fri Jan 12, 2007 02:29am

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Originally Posted by kevin g.
where in the rules book does it say how big of a point lead you need to activate a running clock? We did it at forty points. Im in Michigan

We have a few officials on this forum from your state. I'm sure that one of them will come along shortly and confirm the point differential for you.

Welcome to the forum. :)

JRutledge Fri Jan 12, 2007 02:36am

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Originally Posted by mjbofficial
In Illinois, it's 30 points, but not until the 4th Q starts.

That does not apply to all games. It only applies to tournaments and shootouts before February 1. It also applies only to tournaments that want this rule used (tournament director). No regular season or post season tournaments can use this rule.

Peace

CoachP Fri Jan 12, 2007 07:35am

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref
We have a few officials on this forum from your state. I'm sure that one of them will come along shortly and confirm the point differential for you.

Welcome to the forum. :)

Michigan - Running clock starts when a team has built a 40 point lead. Clock stops on time-outs and injury.

Normal clock resumes when/if losing team closes the gap to 30.

mick Fri Jan 12, 2007 08:18am


MHSAA 2006-2007 Officials Guidebook P.52
http://www.mhsaa.com/resources/offguide.pdf

GoodwillRef Fri Jan 12, 2007 08:36am

In Wisconsin we don't have a running clock provision.

mick Fri Jan 12, 2007 08:44am

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Originally Posted by GoodwillRef
In Wisconsin we don't have a running clock provision.

Does America's Dairyland have a coaching box, yet ?

Texas Aggie Fri Jan 12, 2007 09:01am

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Normal clock resumes when/if losing team closes the gap to 30.
Not to hijack the thread, but this defeats the purpose of the running clock.

Scrapper1 Fri Jan 12, 2007 09:06am

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Originally Posted by Texas Aggie
Not to hijack the thread, but this defeats the purpose of the running clock.

Of course it does. That's the whole point. The running clock is implemented when the losing team shows no chance of being able to win the game. But if they do manage to close the gap to a reasonable amount ("reasonable", as defined by the state association) and have some chance at winning the game, then we want to play the game by the normal timing rules.

If they cut the lead to 3 with a minute left, would you still want the clock to run during FTs?

M&M Guy Fri Jan 12, 2007 09:51am

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1
Of course it does. That's the whole point. The running clock is implemented when the losing team shows no chance of being able to win the game. But if they do manage to close the gap to a reasonable amount ("reasonable", as defined by the state association) and have some chance at winning the game, then we want to play the game by the normal timing rules.

If they cut the lead to 3 with a minute left, would you still want the clock to run during FTs?

In Illinois, when the provision is used, that is exactly what happens. As Jeff mentioned, it's only available for tournaments and shootouts if the rule is agreed upon ahead of time. Then, once a team is ahead by (I believe) 40 pts. at any point in the 4th qtr., the clock then runs except for TO's and injury situations. Even if the other team manages to catch up, the clock continues to run. I was also told if, in the miraculous situation the other team comes back and we go to overtime, there would be a running clock in the OT as well.

tjones1 Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:35am

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Originally Posted by M&M Guy
In Illinois, when the provision is used, that is exactly what happens. As Jeff mentioned, it's only available for tournaments and shootouts if the rule is agreed upon ahead of time. Then, once a team is ahead by (I believe) 40 pts. at any point in the 4th qtr., the clock then runs except for TO's and injury situations. Even if the other team manages to catch up, the clock continues to run. I was also told if, in the miraculous situation the other team comes back and we go to overtime, there would be a running clock in the OT as well.

Time-out, injury, DQ's, techincal fouls, and officials timeout stop the clock. Also, you are correct, if OT happens, running clock in OT.


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