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deecee Fri Jan 12, 2007 12:20am

or if the coach throws up his arms and you are close enough -- tickle his pits and run

Corndog89 Fri Jan 12, 2007 01:18am

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
He isn't being polite. He also isn't coaching. He's working you as an official. Every single possession. If you want to listen to it, fine. I won't.

I know he's not being polite...I thought the sarcasm was implied. I'll be more precise with that in the future.

And if I'm ignoring what the coach is saying, then I'm not listening to it, so I'm not being worked, am I? And if his "coaching" is to work me but I'm not listening, then why do I care how he "coaches"? I'm not his principal, athletic director, parent of a player on his team, or school alumnus, so I really, truly don't care if he's a poor coach.

I just don't understand why so many officials feel a need to respond to anything/everything a coach says or does. I'll answer coaches' questions, I'll address their behavior if they're approaching or over the edge. But if I give in to their attempt to "game" me then they've won because now my focus isn't on the game at hand but on the psychological crappola they're trying to lay on me.

But if you don't want to listen to it that's perfectly okay with me.

Jurassic Referee Fri Jan 12, 2007 04:37am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corndog89
I know he's not being polite...I thought the sarcasm was implied. I'll be more precise with that in the future.

And if I'm ignoring what the coach is saying, then I'm not listening to it, so I'm not being worked, am I? And if his "coaching" is to work me but I'm not listening, then why do I care how he "coaches"? I'm not his principal, athletic director, parent of a player on his team, or school alumnus, so I really, truly don't care if he's a poor coach.

I just don't understand why so many officials feel a need to respond to anything/everything a coach says or does. I'll answer coaches' questions, I'll address their behavior if they're approaching or over the edge. But if I give in to their attempt to "game" me then they've won because now my focus isn't on the game at hand but on the psychological crappola they're trying to lay on me.

But if you don't want to listen to it that's perfectly okay with me.

Corndog, you're making up multi excuses on why you shouldn't call a "T". That's fine. That's you. If you feel it's OK to let a coach whine and yap at you on every single possesssion, be my guest. Everybody has their own tolerance level. Yours and mine are completely different. Shrug.

Ron Giacoma Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:24am

how would/do you handle this...
 
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Originally Posted by Huntin' Ref
Be prepared, this is a long winded explanation and question!

Last night, working a BV conference game we had one coach that absolutely drove me crazy. He stood on the sidelines with his arms crossed and would say:

"watch their hands please"
"watch the pics please"
"watch handchecks please"
"watch the holding please"
"watch the traveling please"

He said this on EVERY SINGLE posession!!

Now to give you some insight into the game. First of all, the players were tall, big and fast but, really not "athletic." Meaning, they didn't have the greatest body control. The game was full of action with pressure defense, a lot of cutting and back screens set. All in all, it was a very disorganized game.

We called 24 fouls in the first half and 29 fouls in the second half. All fouls were pretty obvious (really no complaints about any whistles). But how would you have handled this head coach? Honestly, it was every time down the floor!

In Texas we: Ignore the comments and answer the questions I.E. "watch the handchecks please" is an (ignored) comment. vs "Why are you not calling that handcheck?" I will answer with a very short "I'll watch for that coach".

Mountaineer Fri Jan 12, 2007 09:39pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Give the coach the stop sign and tell him that he's almost becoming a game interrupter and he's not allowing you to use good game management.

Then puke on his shoes.

I must have a short fuse but there's nowayinhell that I'm gonna let a coach work me like that on every single trip up and down the court. Nip it, nip it in the bud.

Cute . . .

OK in this situation, I'll tell the coach that I've heard enough. Be sure to let your partners know that you have now warned the coach. Next word - pop him! I might be tempted to - as I pop him - say, "Wanna compain about that one?":D

Corndog89 Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:47pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Corndog, you're making up multi excuses on why you shouldn't call a "T". That's fine. That's you. If you feel it's OK to let a coach whine and yap at you on every single possesssion, be my guest. Everybody has their own tolerance level. Yours and mine are completely different. Shrug.

How is ignoring a bonehead who is not yelling, screaming, gesticulating, swearing, insulting me or my partners, etc, but instead just whining "making up multi-excuses"? And how can that be "T" worthy?

JR, I respect your comments, opinions, and judgements on this board a lot, but on this issue I guess our tolerance levels are different, which is still okay with me.


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