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Jurassic Referee Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:52am

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1
From what I've heard 4th or 5th-hand, this was Coach Wooden's approach. Every possession, he would have some little comment as you went by and then when you had enough and T'd him, he'd look completely innocent, since he was just sitting there on the bench without making any gestures and nobody else heard him say a word. So you look like an idiot for T'ing up this poor old guy who's just sitting there minding his own business.

I heard it first hand. Wooden was notorious for working the officials. That's why I laugh every time I see the term "sportsmanship" used along with his name. He was the Jim Boheim of his time.

Speaking of Boheim, the greatest description I ever heard of him came from an official. He said <i>"If a hemmorhoid could talk, it would sound just like Boheim".</i>

Coach K is another one that gets away with murder imo. Another whining phony that pays lip service to sportsmanship.

Grumble, grumble, grumble.....:D

deecee Thu Jan 11, 2007 11:50am

how is it working an official if the official tunes out said coach? only statements that you let get to you can effect you.

Jway44 Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:21pm

I had one of these coaches Tuesday night as well, and after the same comment 3 or 4 trips up the floor, I just politely said "Coach, Please coach your players, and we will referee the game" He got the hint and did a nice job from then on.
I have heard one line used that was funny, but I would never use it because I don't find it to be very professional. "Coach, if you and I are both officiating, Who is coaching your team?"

IREFU2 Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:28pm

I would give him the stop sign, let my partner know and then if he continues chirping, WACKARAMA!

SmokeEater Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:31pm

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Originally Posted by Jway44
I just politely said "Coach, Please coach your players, and we will referee the game"

I would think this may provoke a response from said Coach like "When are you gonna start then" or something that will make you then have to decide if you need to make a further call on the Coach.

Jway44 Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:38pm

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Originally Posted by SmokeEater
I would think this may provoke a response from said Coach like "When are you gonna start then" or something that will make you then have to decide if you need to make a further call on the Coach.

You may be right, and baiting a coach into a comment that leads to a T is not a good practice. Maybe in this situation, the stop sign is the proper way to handle the situation. I will try that approach next time around.

Zoochy Thu Jan 11, 2007 01:03pm

This was a great response in another thread.
"this is where i would ask the coach if he saw the new Rocky. And while he is confused I make my escape."
I don't know what she meant, but I thought it was funny.

deecee Thu Jan 11, 2007 01:26pm

by she you mean HE -- last I checked thats what I qualify as....

Zoochy Thu Jan 11, 2007 01:33pm

:o Oops.... Sorry. My bad.

SeanFitzRef Thu Jan 11, 2007 01:43pm

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Originally Posted by IREFU2
I would give him the stop sign, let my partner know and then if he continues chirping, WACKARAMA!

Would you wrap it in a bow? Do they make bows for octagonal structures?

http://blog.kir.com/archives/stop_sign_cop.jpg

tomegun Thu Jan 11, 2007 01:45pm

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Originally Posted by SeanFitzRef

Yessssssssssssss!

BillyMac Thu Jan 11, 2007 09:16pm

Good Coaches ?
 
This thread has mentioned the names of some very successful coaches who seem to exhibit poor sportmanship, in some cases, in very subtle ways: Coach Boheim, Coach Wooden, and Coach K. I would like to add Coach Calhoun and, or course, Coach Knight.

For those of you who closely follow or officiate Division I basketball, are there any really successful "big time" Division I coaches who exemplify good sportmanship ?

Raymond Thu Jan 11, 2007 09:35pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac
This thread has mentioned the names of some very successful coaches who seem to exhibit poor sportmanship, in some cases, in very subtle ways: Coach Boheim, Coach Wooden, and Coach K. I would like to add Coach Calhoun and, or course, Coach Knight.

From what I hear, Coach Calhoun is not subtle at being an a-hole.

rockyroad Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:16pm

Calmly say "Coach, you are becoming a distraction. I can't listen to you and ref the game at the same time. Which would you prefer I do tonight?" If he's smart, he'll stop...if he keeps going, turn your back to the court while play is going on and repeat the statement...if that doesn't work, walk over and sit down next to him on the bench and say "Now that I'm comfortable, we can have a nice, long conversation".

Editorial Note: Everything after the words "he'll stop" is only wishful thinking and I would never really do it - altho it might be fun the last game I do before retiring! :D But the statement has worked well for me for many years...

ChrisSportsFan Fri Jan 12, 2007 12:16am

1st trip down..."we're working hard coach" or "I'll watch"
2nd trip down...."Not on every play Coach"
3rd trip down....Generally, the Coach is busy coaching his team but if he's still chirping, he will get a stopsign from me so everyone knows his line has been drawn. If he continues, why wait til the next trip to pin him?


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