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Jway44 Thu Jan 11, 2007 01:51pm

The more you referee with different crews, the more criticizing and critiquing you will recieve. I was given the advice when I moved up to varsity a few years ago that listen to what "everyone" has to tell you, keep your mouth shut, and then adapt the parts of the advice that fit into your game. Some advice will work for you, others will not. No matter how much you disagree with the other official, it is better to just listen, and then go on to your next game/crew. As a new official, you don't want to make a name for yourself as being one that comes into the system and knows it all, or refuses to take advice.

mick Thu Jan 11, 2007 02:21pm

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Originally Posted by eg-italy
I've seen more than two players go down and officials calling nothing.;)

That "rule" holds primarily in block-charge situations: when both players fall down, a foul has occurred (in most cases): someone is responsible for the contact an there is clearly a disadvantage for the other one.

Ciao

Last night I had two guys go down and no-called it.

Dribbler, in the paint, cut too close to a stationary defender (not legally guarding, but stationary and facing left-front shoulder of dribbler) and got his left foot tangled up with the defender's left foot.

Both went down. Ball went out of bounds.
The defender was good; I could not bail out the dribbler.

eg-italy Thu Jan 11, 2007 04:05pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Bingo! We have a winner. If one player has the ball, there should be a call.

You are wise beyond your years.

Thank you. I'm not as Jurassic as you, but I have the third lower registration number in our local association. Unfortunately not on court any more (Achilles' tendon surrendered).

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You must be an Inter-Milan fan.
:eek: :eek: NO!!! :eek: :eek:

eg-italy Thu Jan 11, 2007 04:08pm

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Originally Posted by mick
Last night I had two guys go down and no-called it.

Dribbler, in the paint, cut too close to a stationary defender (not legally guarding, but stationary and facing left-front shoulder of dribbler) and got his left foot tangled up with the defender's left foot.

Both went down. Ball went out of bounds.
The defender was good; I could not bail out the dribbler.

I said "in most cases"! This case seems either foul on the offense or no call, but it is not a proper block-charge situation.

Ciao

mick Thu Jan 11, 2007 04:22pm

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Last night I had two guys go down and no-called it.

Dribbler, in the paint, cut too close to a stationary defender (not legally guarding, but stationary and facing left-front shoulder of dribbler) and got his left foot tangled up with the defender's left foot.

Both went down. Ball went out of bounds.
The defender was good; I could not bail out the dribbler.

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Originally Posted by eg-italy
I said "in most cases"! This case seems either foul on the offense or no call, but it is not a proper block-charge situation.

Ciao

Yes, eg-italy, no argument here.
I know you said most cases.
Just thouight I'd offer a least one. :)


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