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Old Tue Jan 09, 2007, 01:58pm
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Coach: How can that be a walk?
Me: Didn't you just ask Debbie that?
Coach: But...

I walk away.

OR

Coach: How can that be a walk?
Me: Check the tape after the game.

OR

Coach: How can that be a walk?
Me: I trust Debbie to make a great call on that.

AND

Coach: That's bulls***
Me: ~Whack!~ (There's no "OR" to this one, it's automatic).
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Old Wed Jan 10, 2007, 10:10am
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Coach: How can that be a walk?
Me: I trust Debbie to make a great call on that.

AND

Coach: That's bulls***
Me: ~Whack!~ (There's no "OR" to this one, it's automatic).
The only problem I have with this is it doesn't include the people factor. If I don't know the coach, or have had a bad experience with the coach in the past. Yes, I will whack immediately for this. However, this does not consider IMO, when you do know the coach. For instance, I played bb with some of these coaches. We curse each other out on the floor all the time. I referee some of these coaches in the rec men's league. What about the ones you respect and have a personal relationship with. And I always like to use the Bobby Knight example.

That's why I like to say it's a judgment call here. You don't have to agree with me here, but you should acknowledge that these relationship do exist among referee and coaches. And there are things that are said in the heat of battle that don't get met with the same immediate T response like what was suggested here. Some officials may give a coach a little more latitude because they know the coach, and in return, the coaches is going to want someone with a thicker skin like that on their bigger games. Turn the TV way up on a WNBA playoff games. Sometimes, they mick up the coach or someone that's close by the bench. You will hear some swearing going on and it is directed right at the official in the C slot. Those coaches will get all over the officials. WNBA officials are very inconsistent, imo. In fact, Bill Lambier won the battle with the officials in the WNBA this past season. Got them to call it more consistently which benefited his team.
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Old Wed Jan 10, 2007, 10:22am
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However, this does not consider IMO, when you do know the coach. For instance, I played bb with some of these coaches. We curse each other out on the floor all the time. I referee some of these coaches in the rec men's league. What about the ones you respect and have a personal relationship with.
If I know them, they know me. They also know that for me Bulls*** is an automatic T. Even if the coach were my own husband or my daughter, I'd whack for this. If we have a relationship, they know this. They make their choice, they take their prize.
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Old Wed Jan 10, 2007, 10:47am
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BF last night. V35 gives me the easiest hand-check call I've ever made right in front of the home bench, it's his 4th, so coach pulls him immediately. As I'm administering the inbound, H coach asks, seemingly out of the blue, "Can he say 'Bull Sh!t' like that?" Only loud enough for me and his players to hear.

I simply respond by telling him I didn't hear it (I can only assume it was the offending player on his way to the bench, but I seriously didn't hear it). There's a dead ball right away, and I turn to the coach and look him in the eye and say, "Coach, if he said it, I honestly didn't hear it." "I know, it's just that I heard it and I was standing right next to you." "I know, coach."

So, I guess I can't say the words are an automatic T for me now.
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