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After breaking the record today, Coach Knight received a number of trophies, one of which was presented by a commissioner of the Big 12. After receiving that trophy, here is part of the statement made by coach Knight:

"You know it's been a real pleasure to be in the Big 12......I have really enjoyed Big 12 Competition, the teams, the coaches, and actually, on occassion, I have enjoyed the officiating."

Love him or hate him, you gotta respect what he's done.

I was watching the game and I must admit that I was surprised to hear Dan Schulman make an intelligent comment about the rules. When the Texas Tech crowd was yelling for a travel at one point, Schulman said that the UM player did not have have control of the ball; thus it was not a travel. Wow!

As for Knight, I am ambilavent about his success. He is honest, he does not cheat, he is a great coach etc... Yet I cannot get past some of the comments and actions that he has done over the years. Would I want my son to play for him? I'm not sure.

Honestly, I don't. What difference does it make how many wins and losses you have when you are remembered for being a first-class jerk?

I agree with zman. Its like he goes miles out of his way just to be a hateful person.

There are athletes and coaches out there that you find yourself pulling for sometimes, not because you like that team necessarily but because you like what that person stands for and how he/she conducts himself/herself. BK isn't one of them, IMHO.

Nah. I have no respect for him. This "trophy" ceremony is a good example. Dean Smith had no such ceremony win he broke Rupp's record. Pat Summit had no such ceremony when she broke Smith's record.

Good article describing how most people feel.

Knight Has Record, Plus Tarnished Legacy

I would agree with this if we lived in a society that also called the guy who puts on a good public persona a jerk. Did anyone just think of coach K?

Also, you have to respect the fact that he has three championships with one NBA all-star while Dean Smith has two championships with 12 all-stars - and many more pro players than Knight.

I don't have a problem with people disliking outspoken people like Knight, Bonds and Barkley as long as they aren't gullable enough to think a lot of other sports figures aren't like them. There are two other super-popular sports figures that come to mind. One of them has skeletons flying out of the closet left and right and the other one is still keeping up the image.

I would rather deal with someone who I know is a jerk than someone who is trying to snowball me. And yes I'm from Indiana so my opinions are tainted. :D

I'm not from Iniana, I'm from Iowa. I was happy to see Knight leave the Hoosiers for selfish reasons. I do respect what he's done. Yeah, he's a hard-headed jerk, but he lays it all out on the table. I can appreciate brutal honesty. Would I want him babysitting my 6 year old daughter (or son)? Absolutely not. Would I want him coaching my 20 year old son? Yes.

Whether you think the man is a jerk is more about you than him. First of all he has never been a jerk to me. Secondly the people that say he is a jerk are often people in the media who comments about the same stupid stuff as we talk about when Billy Packer opens his mouth or many other commentators give an opinion about something they know nothing about. I think Bobby Knight is one of the few coaches that challenge the media and the media does everything to try to blow out of proportion things he does. For one most media people never played a single minute of college basketball or any sport in HS, but for some reason because they want an interview, all sports figures are supposed to help make their jobs easier by telling them something they already know by what they saw. I just watched a Michigan team stick up the Rose Bowl in person and I do not need Lloyd Carr to tell me what happen. I already saw what happen. But if you do not give an interview to the right reporter as a player or coach, I am a bad guy. Give me a break.

Peace

And if I recollect correctly, didn't you say you would be in Pasadena? How bad did it really smell?

I don't like Knight, because his misbehavior (which seems to be great entertainment) sets such a bad example for the 99% of coaches who will never coach in the pros or college.

JRut, I don't need anybody in the media to tell me that BK did or didn't strike a player or throw a chair. Your routine of taking the oppositional side and attempting to put a politically correct spin on a fairly obvious situation grows tiresome.

I thought he was fired!

I agree with this, but sometimes, brutally honest is too honest, imo. The same can be accomplished thru lesser means. Dean Smith for example.

What I find most displeasureable about Knight which is often overlooked, is how he treats his peers or other college administrative personnel. When you add that in to his on-the-court behavior, this is not something to be desired. I know what Knight is allowed to get away with, others, especially minorities, would be fired the next day, and this guy is still coaching! That's incredible, and you want to give him an award, wow! I'm concerned our society has no morals anymore. ESPN will give Hitler an award if he won this many games. What a disgrace!!!!

I didn't imply otherwise. I simply said I was happy for selfish reasons.
Overlooked by whom? It's discussed constantly when his name gets brought up.
And there have been examples of minority coaches who get away with the same type of behavior. The key factor hasn't been skin color, but success levels. All kinds of white coaches would have been fired for Knight's behavior as well.
Seriously, you're comparing Knight to Hitler? Seriously? "Hyperbole" just doesn't do this justice.

It usually takes a lot longer in a discussion for Godwin's Law to apply.

Not the first time Old School has reset the bar.

It's right up there with "If you don't agree with me, you'll never get to do a game at a higher level".:)

Okay, maybe Hitler a bit of a stretch, but ESPN would still give him an award if he won this many games. You get the point. Don't know very many minorities coaches that get to keep their job for doing some of the stuff that Knight has done. It damn near took an act of god to get Indiana to release him.

Not trying to make this a racial issue, but creditability speaking. Knight should not be anymore honored for breaking this record than Barry Bonds if he breaks the record. I guess this puts ESPN in a tough position. By there nature, they would have too, whether they like it or not. It sells, so we will cover it.

No, if it's SPORTS NEWS, they will cover it. Like it or not, BK's 880 win is news. Should they ignore it because he's not everybody's choice for Man of the Year? I don't care for the guy, but what he did is newsworthy.

How about John Chaney at Temple? He sent out a goon to injure an opponent. And his player did just that. And Chaney admitted it.

Using your logic.....

Naw, forget it. I just got a headache thinking of that.

You're bringing race into something that has got nothing to do with race. That's an old trick too.

If you do not like the positions I take, then you know where the door is. I also feel a lot of people are influenced by what the media tells them whether it is about Bob Knight or the ability of officials during a particular game. If you do not like those positions, then do not post here, go away and you will never have to worry about the positions I take or the reasons I take them.

Peace

Yeah, I get the point, and it's not any less stupid than the first time you made it.
There is a key difference between Knight breaking the coaching record and Bonds breaking (maybe) the homerun record. Bonds is credibly accused of cheating in ways that are making his run at the record possible. Bonds' defense is weak. Knight, for all his image shortcomings and for all his behavior that many people find abhorrent, has never been accused of cheating.

And what's this have to do with Knights credit score?

Hold the phone big time! John Chaney was fired the next season. If it was me, it would have been the next game. I'm outraged he got to finish the season. Race got nothing to do with it. Like the guy said, it's NEWS, and unfortunately, some people that are not deserving of the coverage, get it anyway.

Well, at least you used another post to contradict yourself this time instead of doing it in the same post. You're the only one who said race was even involved in this. Get over yourself.
And Chaney wasn't fired. He was allowed to resign with dignity.

When was Don Chaney ever the coach at Temple? :confused:

Is mentioning Godwin's Law a self-fulfilling prophecy?

Of course you aren't.

Right. Screwed that up. I went back and changed it.

And Don Chaney was one of my favorite ballplayers too. Couldn't shoot a lick but he was a helluva defender. Hard-worker and smart also.

This has got to be the most offensive statement I have ever seen on this board. I hope you rot in hell 6,000,000 times to trivialize the Holocaust in this manner. And if you think I'm overreacting, why don't you ask my great grandparents. Oh wait, you can't. They died in the Holocaust.

I'd like to tell you what I really think of you but I don't want to sink to your pathetic level.

You know, JRut, for someone who's signoff line is "Peace," you often take a brow-beating stance. I think I'm entitled to disagree with you and even roll my eyes once in a while without being told to leave. Tell you what, from now on I'll just praise your unique insight. Can I stay now? :rolleyes:

Let it go, Padge. You're dead on right, but it's not worth your effort. Old School and some others on this board only recognize one kind of racism, apparently.

Don't be mad at me, be mad at our sports society because it is true. ESPN will cover and phrase anybody who does or accomplishes something great in sports. That's my point. Where does it end? They seem to have no morals.

It's amazing how many people develop strong opinions about something they have never been directly associated with. I have known several players who have played for Knight. He does most of the BS to have fun with the media - it's his enjoyment. Is it right or wrong? Who cares. The media btes on it and gives them something to talk about. Did you see him playfully hit the player under the chin after the win. He does most of this on purpose because of the reaction it gets. Behind close doors and doing his job, the majority who dal with him like the guy a lot. Sure, there are a few that don't and rant and rave, but don't we all have that? By the way, you all should learn about how Rick Pitino treats people behind close doors but is an angel with the media.

Neither of these statements has any place on this board. Please stop talking about these issues here.