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Jurassic Referee Tue Jan 02, 2007 09:54am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimgolf
So is hitting a fan.

Rule 7 Out of Bounds and the Throw-in
SECTION 1 OUT-OF-BOUNDS — PLAYER, BALL
ART. 1 . . . A player is out of bounds when he/she touches the floor, or any
object other than a player, on or outside a boundary. For location of a player in the air, see 4-35.
ART. 2 . . . The ball is out of bounds when it touches or is touched by:
a. A player who is out of bounds.
b. Any other person, the floor, or any object on or outside a boundary.
c. The supports or back of the backboard.
d. The ceiling, overhead equipment or supports.
NOTE: When the rectangular backboard is used, the ball is out of bounds if it
passes over the backboard.
SECTION 2 CAUSING THE BALL TO GO OUT OF BOUNDS - INDIVIDUAL PLAYER
ART. 1 . . . The ball is caused to go out of bounds by the last player in bounds to touch it or be touched by it, unless the ball touches a player who is out of bounds prior to touching something out of bounds other than a player.
ART. 2 . . . If the ball is out of bounds because of touching or being touched by a player who is on or outside a boundary line, such player causes it to go out.

Jim, as an official, you've got a great future behind you.:D

Note the "smiley".

Jimgolf Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:00am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
An official being touched by a ball is not fan interference.

Fan interference is fan interference.

Call anything that you want to. I disagree completely with you and always will.

Are you saying that the spectator walking to his/her seat constitutes fan interefence? The rules state that officials can punish unsporting conduct by team followers, not spectators merely walking to their seats.

It must be nice to always work on roomy courts where this never happens.

Jurassic Referee Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:12am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimgolf
Are you saying that the spectator walking to his/her seat constitutes fan interefence? The rules state that officials can punish unsporting conduct by team followers, not spectators merely walking to their seats.

It must be nice to always work on roomy courts where this never happens.

Roomy courts have got nuthin' to do with nuthin'. If it happens, it happens.

I'm saying that if a player dribbles the ball, and that dribbled ball would have bounced IN-BOUNDS <b>if</b> the ball hadn't touched a fan who was intruding on the court, then I'd cut my nuts off before I'd give the ball to the other team. The dribbler did <b>NOT</b> cause the ball to go OOB. The fan <b>DID</b>. And I ain't penalizing a player for a fan's action. Ever.

That does make it plain enough for you, Jim?

I'm telling you how I would call it. I know how you would call it. We disagree. And that ain't gonna change.

mbyron Tue Jan 02, 2007 02:22pm

I thought that the only provision in the rules for a smaller gym had to do with a 3-foot "restraining line" for throw-ins. What else is in the rules?

Camron Rust Tue Jan 02, 2007 06:28pm

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Originally Posted by mbyron
I thought that the only provision in the rules for a smaller gym had to do with a 3-foot "restraining line" for throw-ins. What else is in the rules?

Division line for backcout/frontcount determination.

mplagrow Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:46pm

Fans on sideline is touched with ball
 
Why hasn't anyone jumped on this yet? :confused:

"Fans on sideline is touched with ball"

Grammatically incorrect! Let's fix it:

"Fan on sideline is touched with ball"

or maybe this,

"Fans on sideline are touched with balls":D

ncaabbref Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:21am

I think an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure in this instance. let's get these fans away from the floor if possible! Instances like these can be greatly prevented if we look at the floor and search for potential problem areas, instead of "hoping" that situations like this don't happen.

I call OOB and give to team B. To me that is BY RULE!


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