What would you do?

Bill from Minn · #1 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 22, 2006, 01:32pm

Lurked awhile, thought I would jump in and join the fun.
My son(16) and I have been refereeing for two yrs. now, and really enjoying it. We do mostly youth games up to 9th grade. Last week we did a 6th grade boys game. On spot thrown ins, I would hand the ball to the point guard out of bounds, and he would let it hit the floor and then pick it up . After doing this about 5 times on throw ins, I told him if he didn't take the ball when I gave it to him, I would T him up for delay of game. Solved the problem. Not sure if that was the right thing to say, but it got him to stop letting the ball hit the floor.

JRutledge · #2 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 22, 2006, 01:37pm

I really do not have a problem with what you did without any specific rules backing how to handle this situation. What you told them in my opinion was preventative officiating and you avoided a bigger problem. You could have started a count, but that should be nearly a last resport.

Peace

Junker · #3 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 22, 2006, 01:41pm

What advantage did he gain by letting the ball hit the floor? Also, by rule you have to record a formal warning for delay before you give the T. Could you have talked to the player without warning them about giving a T?

Old School · #4 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 22, 2006, 01:47pm

None issue, if he won't take it, drop it and start your count. If it continues, bounce it to him, start your count.

Scrapper1 · #5 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 22, 2006, 02:09pm

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Originally Posted by Junker

Also, by rule you have to record a formal warning for delay before you give the T.

I respectfully disagree. There are only 4 formal delay warnings and "not accepting the ball for the throw-in" is not one of them. If he won't take it, put it on the floor and start counting.

Jurassic Referee · #6 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 22, 2006, 02:25pm

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1

I respectfully disagree. There are only 4 formal delay warnings and "not accepting the ball for the throw-in" is not one of them. If he won't take it, put it on the floor and start counting.

Agree. You can't really hand out a "T" to the thrower for "preventing the ball from being made live promptly" when the official simply makes the ball live when putting it on the floor.

Junker · #7 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 22, 2006, 02:49pm

I stand corrected. I should have caught that myself. I guess my mind is on holiday break already.

ChrisSportsFan · #8 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 22, 2006, 03:02pm

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Originally Posted by Old School

None issue, if he won't take it, drop it and start your count. If it continues, bounce it to him, start your count.

I agree, if it's on his baseline, put the ball in his chest and start your count. If it's on another line, bounce it to him and play ball.

I can't think of a good reason why the thrower would do this unless he saw someone else do it and thinks it's cool. Hmmmmm