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zebra44 Wed Dec 13, 2006 03:19pm

Inbounds after hoop....
 
I can't find this in the books.....after made basket by team A player from team B secures ball and goes OOB to begin throwin. He then passes to OOB teammate along baseline who then will inbound....can that player pass back to the original inbounder? Also I am pretty sure he can also roam/run the baseline as could the original inbounder...there is an article in our paper claiming that this happened at the end of a local game and is illegal. I hope someone can point me to rule reference.

just another ref Wed Dec 13, 2006 03:23pm

Check out rule 7-5-7

zebra44 Wed Dec 13, 2006 03:26pm

I found that, but it doesn't answer my questions as to what that player is able to do........:confused: My guess would be if there isn't language against these actions, it is OK....

Jurassic Referee Wed Dec 13, 2006 03:39pm

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Originally Posted by zebra44
I found that, but it doesn't answer my questions as to what that player is able to do........:confused:

Yes, it does. It says that the throw-in can be anywhere at the end of the court outside the end line, and that they can pass the ball along the line to teammates(s) outside the boundary line. That's "teammates"- plural.

Never believe what you read in your local newspaper re: rules interpretations.

zebra44 Wed Dec 13, 2006 03:42pm

OK, you are saying that the teammates can pass the ball between them, and they also have free run of the endline....just so the 5 count is not violated.

Jurassic Referee Wed Dec 13, 2006 03:58pm

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Originally Posted by zebra44
OK, you are saying that the teammates can pass the ball between them, and they also have free run of the endline....just so the 5 count is not violated.

No, the rules say that, not me. As JAR said, rule 7-5-7 states the first part. Rule 9-2-4 relates to the 5-second count.

BEAREF Wed Dec 13, 2006 04:28pm

I don't think that both B12 and B10 can be OOB passing the ball back and forth though. Or did I miss that in the rule that was cited?

Jurassic Referee Wed Dec 13, 2006 04:35pm

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Originally Posted by BEAREF
I don't think that both B12 and B10 can be OOB passing the ball back and forth though. Or did I miss that in the rule that was cited?

Sure they can, if it's not a designated spot throw-in. All 5 B players can be OOB practising a Globetrotters' routine if they want, as long as one of them throws a pass towards the court before the end of the 5-second court.

zebra44 Wed Dec 13, 2006 04:37pm

So we have to do a lot of "reading between the lines" on this one....:cool:

deecee Wed Dec 13, 2006 04:38pm

this is a very simple concept and situation that doesn't need debate...

during a throw in when a team can run the endline -- they can pass to anynumber of teammates on that endline and they (teammates) can run that endline. the only violations are that the player with the ball steps inbounds, a 5 count, or if a player misses a pass and it bounces in bounds and he touches it while still oob -- then you have an oob violation.

zebra44 Wed Dec 13, 2006 04:42pm

Gotcha...just wanted ironclad evidence before I showed the scribe the error of his ways........

Jurassic Referee Wed Dec 13, 2006 04:47pm

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Originally Posted by zebra44
So we have to do a lot of "reading between the lines" on this one....:cool:

What am I missing here?:confused:

Rule 7-5-7 states- <i>"the team not credited with the goal shall make the throw-in from the end of the court where the goal was made and <b>from any point outside the end line</b>"</i>. It also says <i>"Any player of the team may make a direct throw-in or <b>he/she may pass the ball along the end line to a teammmate(s) outside the boundary line</b>".</i>

There's no "reading between the lines" involved. The rule explicitly states what you can legally do.

crazy voyager Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:45am

FIBA:
17.2.6
The player, who makes the throw-in, may move backwards or forward and is allowed to pass the ball to a teammate on or behind the line. However the 5-seconds count starts when the first player has the ball and is ready to make the throw-in.

not exact(!) quotation scince I'm translating from the swedish version

Carl Cramer Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:49am

So...this makes me think of a play I saw recently where A1 and A2 were attempting to pass the ball to each other OOB after a made basket.

A1 makes an inbounds pass to A2. A2 - in-bounds but right next to the end line - jumps from the court, catches the in-bounds pass in the air, and lands with both feet OOB. Violation?

How about the opposite? A1 passes to A2 who jumps from OOB, catches ball in air, lands with both feet on the court. Violation?

jdw3018 Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:53am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carl Cramer
So...this makes me think of a play I saw recently where A1 and A2 were attempting to pass the ball to each other OOB after a made basket.

A1 makes an inbounds pass to A2. A2 - in-bounds but right next to the end line - jumps from the court, catches the in-bounds pass in the air, and lands with both feet OOB. Violation?

How about the opposite? A1 passes to A2 who jumps from OOB, catches ball in air, lands with both feet on the court. Violation?

If I'm reading your scenarios correctly, it appears this would be a violation in both instances. In your first scenario, the player retains "in-bound" status until he is OOB. He catches the ball in the air as an in-bounds player, ending the throw-in. He then lands OOB, which is a violation.

In your second scenario, the player is OOB when he catches the ball, which doesn't end the throw-in. However, he lands in-bounds, which is a violation during the throw-in.


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