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imagomer Wed Dec 06, 2006 07:53am

Initiating conversation with coach
 
Ima coach, and I think my sharing of an experience I had last night with a young official may help some new officials here, plus I just have to vent a little. 3 min left of my Girls Varsity game, I'm down by 15 and not going to come back. IMO, the young official had booted about 3 calls - really no big deal, but he probably knew I was a little agitated with him (remember this later) . Anyway, under my basket, we're D, fighting for a loose ball (right in front of our bench) off a batted pass and as soon as we gain possession I request a timeout. The official who should have granted the TO did not (he heard me, but decided we didn't have possession long enough to constitute control). Of course, I thought we had established control, and I was steaming, though non-verbally, and I don't think I complained out loud (15 point game). My point (finally): The younger official comes in from up the court (from new Lead) to about the division line and initiates an explanation of why the other official had not granted me the TO rqst. I vented on him for about 4 or 5 sentences and then he gives me the stop sign. I say "You came here and started this conversation with me and now you want to tell me you don't want to discuss it?!" Then we finish the game. My advice to the newer refs: don't initiate a conversation with an agitated coach - respond professionally if he asks a valid question. More experienced refs already know when to speak and when not to speak to a coach. (I think his knowledge of my earlier disappointment with a few of his calls, and his inexperienced desire to be "liked" may have brought him to the point to "make nice" with me. maybe. . .) I hope this is helpful. Go Lions.

mick Wed Dec 06, 2006 07:58am

Good post, Coach.
Interesting.

Zack Wed Dec 06, 2006 09:35am

I am curious coach, when you say young, do you mean like he was actually a young looking official in his early 20's or younger, or that you had never seen him work before so you figured he was new?

imagomer Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:03am

He was both chronologically and avocationally young. I could tell by his mechanics and manner that he was more inexpeienced than the other two officials, both of whom I have known for years. That he was paired with the two more experienced guys was another tipoff that he was "still coming along." The fact that we are a small school conference (with less athletic, less intense, and yes even less skillful players and coaches) makes our league a good place for the newer officials to get their feet wet. I believe this was the case with this official.

imagomer Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:04am

And to answer your Q: I would say he was 25ish

Junker Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:38am

I had the bad habit of initiating conversations a few years ago. Nothing good comes of it. Now, about the only time I talk to a coach is if they ask me a direct question. Great post from a coach's perspective by the way.

tjones1 Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:38am

Coach,

Kudos for allowing the younger guy to come work for you. We've gotta start somewhere if we want this game to continue.

Kevzebra Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:52am

Easy way to think about talking to coaches:

1) Answer questions
2) Ignore statements
3) Punish idiotic people!

Follow those steps and depending on your verbal communication skills, you most likely will have few troubles!

SWMOzebra Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:35am

Thanks for the reminder, Coach! It's sound advice.

As a newer official (though not even close to "25-ish"), I've been paired with more experienced partners every time I step on the court. This is one thing that's constantly emphasized to me in pre-game, don't try to explain without the coach asking first.


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