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M&M Guy Tue Dec 12, 2006 04:35pm

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Originally Posted by Old School
I officiated this sport for almost ten years before I ever open a book on the rules.

This tells me a lot.

mbyron Tue Dec 12, 2006 05:01pm

I agree. I can't imagine presuming to officiate a sport without previously working hard to know the rules and receiving some training in proper mechanics.

Jurassic Referee Tue Dec 12, 2006 05:07pm

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Originally Posted by Old School
I now work some <font color = red>light duty</font> college and high school contests.

What is <b>"light duty"</b> college and high school?:confused:

1) Are you working regularly scheduled conference college games at the D1, D2, D3, NAIA or JC level?
2) Are you working regularly scheduled conference boys/girls varsity high school games?

Or are you working rec league games with high school and college age players?

And, do you own the proper rule books, case books and manuals for those levels?

You didn't answer <b>all</b> the questions.

Old School Wed Dec 13, 2006 08:34am

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Originally Posted by mbyron
I agree. I can't imagine presuming to officiate a sport without previously working hard to know the rules and receiving some training in proper mechanics.

I approached this from a players prospective. I coach the game for many years before I went into officiating. Most of the places I officiated, they just wanted a warm body. Think about it. Guys like you that know the rules are not going to want to do this lower level stuff, which creates a need that at the time I was happy to fulfill.

Smitty Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:26am

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Originally Posted by Old School
I approached this from a players prospective. I coach the game for many years before I went into officiating. Most of the places I officiated, they just wanted a warm body. Think about it. Guys like you that know the rules are not going to want to do this lower level stuff, which creates a need that at the time I was happy to fulfill.

So then when you said you were an assignor, that was a lie?

mbyron Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:40am

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I approached this from a players prospective. I coach the game for many years before I went into officiating. Most of the places I officiated, they just wanted a warm body. Think about it. Guys like you that know the rules are not going to want to do this lower level stuff, which creates a need that at the time I was happy to fulfill.
Not so. I use lower level games to work on my mechanics, to help out less-experienced partners, to teach kids the game ("don't reach!", "straight up!"), and to help my assignor get games covered.

Only the last could one do without good training.

Old School Wed Dec 13, 2006 01:34pm

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Originally Posted by Smitty
So then when you said you were an assignor, that was a lie?

No, I just didn't go into that part of my career.

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Originally Posted by mbyron
Not so. I use lower level games to work on my mechanics, to help out less-experienced partners, to teach kids the game ("don't reach!", "straight up!"), and to help my assignor get games covered.

As do I, as I stated last night, I had 2 games. My new partner decided not to call a foul late in the JV game because of the point spread. I told him never do that again. Play the game all the way out, regardless. It doesn't matter how long it takes. B4 grabbed the kid with the ball at about the half court line as the home team was trying to just run the clock out. The kid with the ball just dribble thru it and kept dribbling.


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