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ctpfive Fri Dec 01, 2006 04:06pm

team control during freethrow?
 
Does a team have team control during a freethrow? And if they do, when does that control start? Thanks in advance.

Teigan Fri Dec 01, 2006 04:07pm

Team control I do believe starts at the moment the ball is at the disposal of the free thrower. And yes there is team control (Rule 4 Sec. 13 Art 6)

rainmaker Fri Dec 01, 2006 04:08pm

Rule 4-12. Especially note arts 5 and 6.

rainmaker Fri Dec 01, 2006 04:10pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teigan
Team control I do believe starts at the moment the ball is at the disposal of the free thrower. And yes there is team control

AACCHH!!! You beat me. But my post is more didactic.

Teigan Fri Dec 01, 2006 04:18pm

i saw your rules quote...and i followed your lead....threw one of my own in there

Jurassic Referee Fri Dec 01, 2006 04:20pm

Soooooooo....is there team control if you put the ball at the <b>disposal</b> of the free-throw shooter but he hasn't picked it up yet?

If a teammate of the FT shooter commits a foul <b>before</b> the FT shooter picks up the ball that is at his disposal, is it a team control foul and the FT is cancelled?

If a teammate of the the FT shooter commits a foul <b>after</b> the FT shooter picks up the ball, is it a team control foul and the FT is cancelled?

Inquiring minds need to know!

Adam Fri Dec 01, 2006 04:31pm

Why would the FT be cancelled?

ctpfive Fri Dec 01, 2006 04:32pm

The 06-07 officials quiz on referee.com is saying that there is not team control during a freethrow. Quest. #11. There is team control during:
A) a throw in
B)while a pass from A1 to A2 is in flight
C)a dribble by A1
D)a free throw while the shooter is holding the ball
E)a jump ball

I chose b,c, and d. However, they are saying b and c are the only answers. Is this a mistake or am I interpreting the question wrong?

Jurassic Referee Fri Dec 01, 2006 04:36pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctpfive
The 06-07 officials quiz on referee.com is saying that there is not team control during a freethrow. Quest. #11. There is team control during:
A) a throw in
B)while a pass from A1 to A2 is in flight
C)a dribble by A1
D)a free throw while the shooter is holding the ball
E)a jump ball

I chose b,c, and d. However, they are saying b and c are the only answers. Is this a mistake or am I interpreting the question wrong?

REFEREE has been known to be wrong- many times.:)

Jurassic Referee Fri Dec 01, 2006 04:37pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells
Why would the FT be cancelled?

Who said it was?:confused:

Nobody has anwered any questions yet.

Jurassic Referee Fri Dec 01, 2006 04:41pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teigan
Team control I do believe starts at the moment the ball is at the disposal of the free thrower. And yes there is team control (Rule 4 Sec. 13 Art 6)

Is that NFHS or NCAA?:confused:

Do you have an NFHS cite?

ctpfive Fri Dec 01, 2006 04:41pm

the answer key or solutions that referee provides does not have (D) as one of the answers

Jurassic Referee Fri Dec 01, 2006 04:44pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctpfive
the answer key or solutions that referee provides does not have (D) as one of the answers

Well, then REFEREE is wrong. Again.

REFEREE is not an official rules source and never has been.

Teigan Fri Dec 01, 2006 04:45pm

NCAA page BR-79

BktBallRef Fri Dec 01, 2006 04:47pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctpfive
the answer key or solutions that referee provides does not have (D) as one of the answers

4-12-1
A player is in control of the ball when he/she is holding or dribbling a live ball inbounds. There is no player control when, during a jump ball, a jumper catches the ball prior to the ball touching the floor or a non-jumper, or during an interrupted dribble.


During a FT, if a player holding a live ball inbounds? You tell me, ctp5. :)


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