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rule book, page 74, line 6 says it is not possible to travel during a dribble...if i have the ball on the dribble and run 10 steps before i put the ball down again, is this not a travel while dribbling....i'm confused..

If you take 10 steps before you put the ball down, you have not started a dribble. It is that simple.

Rule 4-15 says: A dribble is ball movement caused by the player in control who bats (intentionally strikes the ball in the hand(s)) or pushes the ball to the floor once or several times.

You cannot have a dribble until this happens.

Peace

It is not a travel to take multiple steps during a dribble between touches. Only when the dribble ends (e.g. the ball comes to rest in the hand) is a travel possible.

The rule book is correct and you are confused. FYI - it is not double dribble to dribble twice while not moving your feet either.:D

While you have the rule book, read the section that covers travelling.

As long as your hand is not on the ball while you are taking those 10 steps you are fine. The likelyhood of a defender not taking the ball during those 10 steps is very slim. Jr's post pretty much says it all. I'm eating while I do this and got beat to the reply.

You also fail the test, as you can travle before you start a dribble.

If you did this, you would violate, how ever it wouldn't have to be a travel.

If you took the ball between your hand and held it with both hands:
travle, you're dribbel has ended

If you hold the ball "in your hand" not resting it in your palm, I don't belive it really covers if this is an illegal dribble or palming but I'd call palming.

If you rest the ball in your hand while running like this: palming.

So you can dribble and you havn't travelled, but you have still commited a violation.

Clips, forget steps. The definition of the dribble states that the ball doesn't come to rest in one or both hands during the dribble- rule 4-15-4. Iow, the player is not holding the ball during his dribble; there's no possession. The definition of traveling states that traveling can only occur while a player is actually holding the ball.

If a player ends his dribble by holding the ball, then the foot restrictions of traveling will come into play---not before.

Why would he flunk the test?:confused:

He referenced multiple steps <b>during</b> a dribble and also talked about the <b>end</b> of the dribble. He didn't say diddly about what happened preceding the dribble.

His answer looked OK to me. What am I missing?

The OP was about what you can do before you actually dribble. I guess I failed because I made no mention to the pivot foot and other aspects of this rule. :rolleyes:

Peace

Because he said that you can "only" travel after the dribble ends. You can also travel before the dribble begins, but that wasn't part of the original scenario.

I don't think so. Read it again and he says that he has the ball "on the dribble". He's already dribbling and taking 10 steps between each dribble.

JR,
The first statement is correct. The second one is not. As I read it, is states that you can only travel after dribbling the ball. Perhaps I am being more selective that you might, but I would have agreed with the following statements:

In this situation, only when the dribble ends (e.g. the ball comes to rest in the hand) is a travel possible.

or

After starting a dribble, only when the dribble ends (e.g. the ball comes to rest in the hand) is a travel possible.

By that logic, nearly every answer would be incorrect unless the entire rule book was qouted.

While I don't consider it part of my function to grade or score every post, I am comfortable correcting posts that I read that seem incorrect to me if I choose. I have learned by my posts being corrected or questioned.

Side note - Why is it that regardless where I put the "w", "answer" doesn't look correct until I check the dictionary.

He said he had the ball and the dribble and then takes 10 steps before he puts the ball down. It sounds like to me he did not know when a dribble started or when it ended.

Peace

Um, Sam....your red highlighted statement above is <b>exactly</b>, word-for-word what wanja actually wrote in his post. Not being the sharpest knife in the drawer, that's why you're confusing the hell outa me.

Anyway....I agree with both of your and wanja's identical statements.

Guess you picked a bad week to give up sniffing glue. It's not the same as what wanja wrote, b/c wanja left out the qualifying phrase "in this situation". Wanja made it sound like it was only ever possible to travel after ending a dribble. And that just ain't so.

JR,
As Chuck's quote above reads, I added "In this situation" and "After starting a dribble" to wanja's statement. I agree with Chuck.

But I won't back Chuck 100% as there are other things you could be sniffing or drinking besides glue.:D

Geeze, are you trying to set a world's record for tiniest nits?:rolleyes:

Wanja's previous sentence in his post explained the sequence he was using i.e. during dribble--->after dribble.That was his qualifier.

All we're doing now imo is probably just confusing the sh!t outa everybody....including me.

Maybe this is his problem?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15144530/

Aw, that's not news. Wimmen have been doing that for years, thinking that it tightens their face and gets rid of wrinkles.

Personally, I think that it's just where some of them get their sh!tty outlook on life.

You don't learn these little gems of knowledge at no retreat, I tell ya!

So, um, if it's applied with one foot in the frontcourt and one foot in the backcourt?...

Oops, wrong thread.

I think we need the O.P. to come back and better explain his/her scenario. I know (from personal experience) that sometimes what I want to describe and what actually gets typed are two different things. My take was they were asking if there's a restriction on the number of "steps" that can be taken while dribbling - which we all know there isn't.

Actually, it is effectively a travel and a carry/palming at the same time. Palming can be viewed as the end of a dribble.

At one time, just a few years ago, the call of "Palming" was removed and we were given the option of travel or illegal dribble. No action was made legal or illegal by this change, just the name of it changed. The violation was either a travel (if the feet moved while the ball was being palmed) or an illegal dribble (if the feet didn't move and the ball was again dribbled).

Because fans/coaches were so accustomed to seeing the palming/carry signal, it was quite confusing to have a "carry" signaled with a traveling signal or illegal dribble signal. The NFHS restored the carry signal to more clearly indicate the call.

No dis-agreement here.

Funny story...after the birth of our third son, my wife had some serious hemi problems going on, so the doctor gave her some prescription ointment. She left it on the sink one day, and our oldest son, who was three at the time, thought it was the toothpaste...after calling the poison control center and making sure he was OK, we had a good laugh watching him poking and pulling on his cheeks because they were so numb...sigh - oh for the good old days!

Yeah, I can just see you, the kid & the grandkids all sitting around the Thanksgiving table..."hey little one, did ol' grandad ever tell you about the time your father ate a big gobb-full of Preparation H???!"

He's gonna love that! :D

Not quite as funny as Preparation H, but. . .

My daughter once left a glue stick out after doing an artsy project. A member of my family found it and thought it was Chap Stick, applying it directly to the lips. This caused uncontrollable laughter from <s>his wife</s>, I mean, another family member.