Revision 7-5-7

[BMA]

7-5-7 Permits a team to run the end line on a throw-in when the scoring team, immediately following a made basket or during the ensuing throw-in, commits either a violation or foul.
My question to this: if the team does not score is this in effect.
CASE: Team A commits a violation (no score)they are down by a point, so they put on a press. Can Team B run the base line according to 7-5-7 (Team A has advanced the ball to the front court)

Is the violation on Team A under the "ensuing throw-in"

[bigwhistle]

In a word..NO.

[Mark Padgett]

Bigwhistle is, of course, correct. The rules about running the endline after a made or awarded (don't forget the awarded part)score have only changed to the point that if the defensive team violates or fouls on the throwin following the score, the inbounding team may still run the endline, regardless of how many times the defensive team does it (of course, if they go into the penalty with a foul, free throws are shot).

The reason for this rule change is in keeping with the NF philosophy of not allowing a team to gain an advantage by fouling or committing a violation. Until this change, a defensive team could violate, thereby taking away the advantage the offense had to run the endline.

There are many other aspects of NF philosophy, but we won't get into that now.

[Brian Watson]

Basically this was a clarification to the fed rules that I think the NCAA has been using for a while.

Before after a basket you could run the base line, but if the defense fouled, you lost that right. The new throw in was a spot throw in. Not very fair if the defense had a foule (Metric spelling?) to give.


This evens things out a bit.

[walter]

After a successful try or free throw, team B could run the endline. Prior to the change, team A could foul to cause a spot throw in which is, if you listen to coaches, easier to defend against than a throw in where the thrower-inner (for lack of a better term) could run the baseline. A violation or foul by team A would always be and will continue to be a spot throw-in for team B.

[ScottParks]

Walter, I was with you right up to your last sentence. If a spot throw-in had been awarded, a subsequent foul or violation does not change it unless free throws are merited. However, if the team is entitled to run the baseline, it does not lose that right due to a foul or violation be the defensive team. A foul or violation by own team forfeits the right.

[Mark Dexter]

Originally posted by parkssa
Walter, I was with you right up to your last sentence. If a spot throw-in had been awarded, a subsequent foul or violation does not change it unless free throws are merited. However, if the team is entitled to run the baseline, it does not lose that right due to a foul or violation be the defensive team. A foul or violation by own team forfeits the right.

I hate to answer for others, but I would assume that he meant a violation or foul on its own accord results in a spot throw-in.

BTW, the better term to use (for whoever asked) is inbounder.

[williebfree]

[i][/B]
BTW, the better term to use (for whoever asked) is inbounder. [/B]

[i]Then their are nine "outbounders" on the court?

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by Mark Dexter


BTW, the better term to use (for whoever asked) is inbounder.

But the correct term is "thrower."

[Mark Dexter]

Originally posted by BktBallRef

But the correct term is "thrower."

Thank you.

I suppose I should actually read the rulebook from time to time, instead of taking the coaches' advice to use it as toilet paper