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swvaref Sun Sep 17, 2006 08:33pm

Distance travel for games
 
Hey guys I was just wondering how far you have to travel to your games. The farthest I have to travel is up to 2 ( yes 2) hours one way to 3 schools that our association officates, from my house. Blocking those schools is not an option for us I usually get those games on a weeknight and dont get into bed until well after midnight

WhistlesAndStripes Sun Sep 17, 2006 08:39pm

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Originally Posted by swvaref
Hey guys I was just wondering how far you have to travel to your games. The farthest I have to travel is up to 2 ( yes 2) hours one way to 3 schools that our association officates, from my house. Blocking those schools is not an option for us I usually get those games on a weeknight and dont get into bed until well after midnight

Our association covers 1 school that is about that distance. Most of their home games are on Friday Night/Saturday day, so you go there on Friday, stay the night, and then work Saturday. Usually do 1 JV game and then 2 V games (boys and girls) on each day.

crazy voyager Mon Sep 18, 2006 01:15am

the longest I've travelled is 1 hour I think, but that is with bus. With car, max 30 minutes, hardly even that. I live outside the second largest city in sweden (wich compared to some of the us citys is nothing, 750 000 inhabitants I think) so I get all my games around here, most of the for the local club and that's 15 minutes drive/30 minutes with bus so I never have to travel far.

ChuckElias Mon Sep 18, 2006 06:10am

HS, max is 40 minutes. It's not even that far. It's just in a tough place to get to. NCAA, max is about 3.5 hours drive.

mick Mon Sep 18, 2006 06:47am

For High school games, I have traveled from 4-1/2 minutes to 4-1/2 hours.
Travel pay is $ 0.25/ mile.

Raymond Mon Sep 18, 2006 08:33am

Furthest high school is 75 miles from local area. 2-man crew gets $20 ($10/person) and passenger customerily pays driver $10 up front.

JuCo, my closest school is 2 1/2 hours away, with most 3-4 hours away. No travel pay.

Jurassic Referee Mon Sep 18, 2006 09:22am

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Originally Posted by ChuckElias
HS, max is 40 minutes. It's not even that far. It's just in a tough place to get to. NCAA, max is about 3.5 hours drive.

That NCAA one may change......:D

Larks Mon Sep 18, 2006 10:11am

High School - I think my furthest last year was 55 miles one way from the house.

We do not get travel pay for reg season games in Ohio so if you dont want to drive - dont work for that assignor.

For me in Cincinnati, the normal drive is 15-30 from the office and then 15-30ish to the post game location (home or local brown pop establishment)

26 Year Gap Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:02am

Furthest I have gone one way is 90 miles. Most trips are at least 35 miles.

Ref_ Fred Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:16am

I have a question for most. Officiating is not my primary form of employment. Typcial Varsity games in my region are Tue, Thurs and Friday. When a double header Girls/Boy , the girls start at 6:00Pm and immediately following are the boys. It's no problem when I do boys. 8:00 Pm is a typical start unless OT. Both of the association I work for would like Varisty official to be there for pregame 45 to 60 minute before game time. How do you most of you manage if you have a game time of 6:00pm and considering you also have a 45 min pregame conference with partners. How do you travel 50 to 60 miles and get there in time? In northern VA you might as well forget getting there on time if you have to travel 50 miles during rush hour. How do you do it? I have to turn down the 50 miler games..

refhoops Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:35am

We cover games up to 60 miles away from my home but typically games are within 30 miles and we receive no mileage.

Our association requires us to arrive 30 minutes before game time. We have many who arrive at least an hour before game time, this gives them time to relax and unwind before there game and offers a buffer should there be an issue with traffic. However, there are many times, especially with sub-varsity games, when partners arrive less than 10 minutes before game time. Because of my schedule, many times during the season I will work a early sub-varsity game and then a varsity game at another location. The pre-game more times is nothing more than introduction to each other and lets get captains. My opinion is that if you cannot get there at least 30 minutes before game time, don't accept the game. It is not fair to player and coaches wondering if they are only going to have 1 official work there game and it is not right to your partner who is wondering if you are going to show up.

Official99 Mon Sep 18, 2006 12:03pm

I have never gone further than an hour away for high school.... NCAA is a different story, I've traveled entirely too far for games!

In our high school association we don't get paid milage. If we travel more than 50 miles one way, we get an extra $10 to our game fee, and $20 if we travel more than 100 miles one way. The funny part about traveling 100 miles one way is it's NH... the widest part of the state is only 114 miles. You'd have to be traveling far up north to make 100 miles one way.

stripes Mon Sep 18, 2006 12:23pm

In the Salt Lake City area, for HS the farthest is 250 mi one way (the last 50 on a dirt road and no gas stations!). JUCO is now about 200 mi one way and NAIA is in town.

Dan_ref Mon Sep 18, 2006 02:26pm

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Originally Posted by ChuckElias
HS, max is 40 minutes. It's not even that far. It's just in a tough place to get to. NCAA, max is about 3.5 hours drive.

3.5 hrs? That's like from where you live to Fort Ticonderoga, right? Any chance you'll get to Chattanooga, Tennessee? I hear there's a small bar & grill there, if you want to stop for a short one.

tjones1 Mon Sep 18, 2006 02:34pm

Somewhat depends. If I'm doing the solo act, I usually try and keep it within an hour. But, if I'm lucky enough to be traveling with someone... I'll pack my bag (uhh, M&M would probably say I just need to pack the rest of my gear bag ;)) for where ever.

JRutledge Mon Sep 18, 2006 02:41pm

I try to keep most HS games within an hour and a half away. Where I live you can go 30 miles and it will take you over an hour to get to a game. I have and will work HS games that take longer than 2 hours away. I also go back and work games in the area I started. Because I have family and friends still in that area I can work games that are technically over 3 hours from my current residence, but do not require a very long round trip.

College games can take up to 4 hours (one way) to work. Fortunately those are not things that happen very often.

Peace

Corndog89 Mon Sep 18, 2006 03:09pm

Probably 90+% of my HS games are within 3-4 miles of my home with at least half inside 2 miles and one school right across the street. I walk to a lot of my games. Most of the gyms for rec leagues are in about the same radius. If I get some womens NCAA DII games this year (fingers crossed) they play in the same close-to-home gyms except for one 30-odd mile drive to the north shore. Yet another reason to love Honolulu :)

Different story, however, when I called in the Florida panhandle. 50-125 miles one-way 2-4 nights per week to call two games (varsity & JV) was not unusual. One season several schools even played the girls varsity game the same night as the boys varsity & JV trying to drum up more interest in the girls game...that meant three games for one crew with the toughest, the boys varsity, the last game. No mileage, though we did eventually get $10 per trip per 3-man crew...whoohoo! :rolleyes:

I don't miss Florida, except for one big thing...the quality of the games was much, much better there.

ChuckElias Mon Sep 18, 2006 03:13pm

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Originally Posted by Corndog89
Different story, however, when I called in the Florida panhandle. 50-125 miles one-way.

I went to camp in Orlando a couple years ago ( http://forum.officiating.com/showthread.php?t=9469 ) and most of the games were held at Disney's Wide World of Sports facility, but some of the games were held at "local" high schools. We didn't have to go 50 miles, but those games were spread out; a good half hour to forty minutes apart. So we would start out at the Milk House for morning meetings, then maybe drive 40 minutes to our first game, then maybe have to drive another 30 minutes to the site of the second game, then 40 minutes back to the hotel. It wasn't fun, but the camp was pretty darn good. Would've been better if all our games were at the Milk House, but camp is camp.

26 Year Gap Mon Sep 18, 2006 05:14pm

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Originally Posted by ChuckElias
I went to camp in Orlando a couple years ago ( http://forum.officiating.com/showthread.php?t=9469 ) and most of the games were held at Disney's Wide World of Sports facility, but some of the games were held at "local" high schools. We didn't have to go 50 miles, but those games were spread out; a good half hour to forty minutes apart. So we would start out at the Milk House for morning meetings, then maybe drive 40 minutes to our first game, then maybe have to drive another 30 minutes to the site of the second game, then 40 minutes back to the hotel. It wasn't fun, but the camp was pretty darn good. Would've been better if all our games were at the Milk House, but camp is camp.

I sense a 'milk is good for growing bones' joke is not far away.

zeke Thu Sep 21, 2006 06:36pm

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Originally Posted by refhoops
We cover games up to 60 miles away from my home but typically games are within 30 miles and we receive no mileage.

Our association requires us to arrive 30 minutes before game time. We have many who arrive at least an hour before game time, this gives them time to relax and unwind before there game and offers a buffer should there be an issue with traffic. However, there are many times, especially with sub-varsity games, when partners arrive less than 10 minutes before game time. Because of my schedule, many times during the season I will work a early sub-varsity game and then a varsity game at another location. The pre-game more times is nothing more than introduction to each other and lets get captains. My opinion is that if you cannot get there at least 30 minutes before game time, don't accept the game. It is not fair to player and coaches wondering if they are only going to have 1 official work there game and it is not right to your partner who is wondering if you are going to show up.

I agree on getting there at least a hour before. You have to have that unwind time. And some pregame that at least covers your areas of concern i.e. if the ball pops out in the backcourt and I'm at trail and you r @ center and I look @ u and u give me the hand flick (for touch) I will know. Most get to work with some of the same guys. Thats when I think its good to discuss plays, angles and situations.
If we r not constantly trying to get better we r hurting the game.


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