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just another ref Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:59am

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Originally Posted by ChuckElias
.......Jurassic, as much of a curmudgeon as he is.....


I had to look up curmudgeon in the dictionary, but I think calling someone that gets you even for being called short.

26 Year Gap Sat Sep 16, 2006 06:06pm

One more thing...when Nevada and Rut are going at it, steer clear. Better to be p****d off than p****d on.

Brad Sun Sep 17, 2006 03:45pm

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Why do they let coaches rate officials?
Because coaches control the game -- at every level. You are kidding yourself if you think otherwise.

Jimgolf Mon Sep 18, 2006 08:41am

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Originally Posted by Brad
Because coaches control the game -- at every level. You are kidding yourself if you think otherwise.

Except on The Official Forum, LOL :)

zeke Thu Sep 21, 2006 06:48pm

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Originally Posted by RonRef
You struck a very touchy cord with me in your last sentence. Why do they let coaches rate officials? Nobody knows this answer not even Jurassic Referee! Most coaches don't know the rules, mechanics or coverage areas. IMO you have to officiate the game and the rating process can never enter into your mind during the game.

IMO rating officials by coaches is a pacifier for the coaches by the assignor and/or the league. The coaches in general would love to scratch officials. Most levels will not allow this. But coaches do need to vent. Coaching is their job and they do need a venting outlet to your boss the supervisor. IMO the more we understand the challenges of the coach the better our game management skills can be.

zeke Thu Sep 21, 2006 07:04pm

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Originally Posted by Sirrefalot
Same as previous, newer official 3rd year. My question isn't about rules or interpetations, it about conversing with the coach. Three man I'm the C. right next to the coach. A1 bring ball up court, A2 comes from the block to the wing to set a pick for a1. B2 who is guarding a2 bumps her minor contact i thought but it made the screen move alittle and b1 runs into her. B's coach who is standing next to me says "you got to be kidding, you stood right there and let her throw an illegal screen." I told him politely that it was his player who caused the whole mess, there was no advantaged gain as the ball went out of bounds off of B. Coach B gets upset and starts reciting his unique version of the rule book. Ball changes direction and then quickly back. A1 then dribbles to same wing, and picks up dribble, pivots a few times and then pumps like she is going to pass the ball, however, her pivot foot comes up in the air and she balances on her front foot for about 3 seconds until she finally passes to a team mate. He goes bonkers again, wanting a travel. I explain that it is not a travel until she touchs her pivot foot down with the ball. He again assures me that i do not know the rules. Question is this, how to you converse with a coach who is rating you, who really doesn't know the rules.

Here's a suggestion: you are breaking in and trying to establish some creditiblity with your peers, coaches and yourself. A big part of officiating is dealing with the sideline. As I said the coach has a job to do and you do too. You need to convey this to him. Also, not all conversation is heard. Especially doing a live ball. Now that being said, he says something about a screen and then a walk. You officiate the live ball. Then on the next deal ball opportunity say a t.o. that you grant you catch the coach and say coach I heard what you said about the screen, the walk and etc. I can't concentrate on you and the game to so please coach your team.
Or tell him you made your point I heard you and walk away.
Or coach I can't give a clinic here. You can't question everything. I'll be happy to explain something that is out of whack but not every play. And walk away.
The key is to treat him/her professionally, brief and concise. Long conversations will not benefit either party. Also, bottom line, treat him like you would want to be treated. Seriously.


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