question for Texas Refs

One of the 2005-06 TASO exceptions is the Lead does not administer sideline throw-ins. Does that meam if the ball goes out of bounds on the leads sideline below the foul line the lead goes out and becomes the new trail to administer the throw-in?

Could someone in Tx explain this if I have it incorrect?

thanks

[Nevadaref]

I'm not from Texas, but I have to assume that this exception is referring only to three person crew mechanics.

Furthermore, it appears that TASO does not use NFHS mechanics, but follows the NCAA mechanics because only the NCAA men made the change this year to have the Lead administer the sideline throw-ins below the FT line extended. Otherwise there would be no need for them to issue an this exception.

The correct NFHS procedure for both boys and girls high school games is given on page 62-63 of the new officials manual:
331.b.
In the frontcourt, the throw-in is administered by the official responsible for the boundary where the throw-in occurs. The officials not administering the throw-in shall use the "wide triangle" principle. The Lead administers all end line throw-ins and the Trail administers all sideline throw-ins. See Diagram 54.

[Tim Roden]

I believe Ronnie said we can go ahead and administer the throw in this year as lead. What we did before was to switch(Lead to trail) or switch sides of the floor. Pregame it.

[FrankHtown]

In Houston, we were told the lead administers ALL throw-ins below the free throw line extended, for both 2 and 3 person.

[TravelinMan]

Originally Posted by FrankHtown

In Houston, we were told the lead administers ALL throw-ins below the free throw line extended, for both 2 and 3 person.

So Houston does not follow NFHS rules in all cases? It would make more sense for trail to administer since sideline is his/her line to call. Trail could bounce pass and then step back into proper position. In fact, I had this exact situation in camp last week. Ball went out of bounds on my sdieline well below the foul line. And coach was rightfully so adamant about ball being spotted on sideline, not endline. I'm in Georgia. BTW, I plan on moving to Tyler, Texas in a couple of years. My wife is from Ft. Worth and would like to be closer to her family. I'm origianally from NY, but I LOVE Texas. Great state.

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[Snake~eyes]

I have done both ways.

NFHS mechanics manual prescribes that the trail inbound all throw-ins on his sideline, but I like the lead taking the throw-in below the freethrow line extended much better. Just my opinion.

[TravelinMan]

Originally Posted by Snake~eyes

I have done both ways.

NFHS mechanics manual prescribes that the trail inbound all throw-ins on his sideline, but I like the lead taking the throw-in below the freethrow line extended much better. Just my opinion.

Snake-eyes, why is that?

[KingTripleJump]

Originally Posted by MPLAHE

One of the 2005-06 TASO exceptions is the Lead does not administer sideline throw-ins. Does that meam if the ball goes out of bounds on the leads sideline below the foul line the lead goes out and becomes the new trail to administer the throw-in?

Could someone in Tx explain this if I have it incorrect?

thanks

LEAD WILL ADMINISTER SIDELINE THROW-INS BELOW THE FREE THROW LINE EXTENDED (2 & 3 PERSON MECHANICS)

per the TASO website.

[FrankHtown]

Why did this pop up seven months later???

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by FrankHtown

Why did this pop up seven months later???

B/c some spammer wants us officials to visit Malaysia.

[Texas Aggie]

it appears that TASO does not use NFHS mechanics, but follows the NCAA mechanics

Texas uses Fed mechanics but has a few exceptions.

[Damian]

Yes, the lead will inbound the ball on the sidelines below the free throw line extended. The trail will mirror the clock starting chop to insure the table can see it. The trail still has sideline responsibility. This is to get closer to college mechanics. I think women's do this now.

Next year, we will no longer have the player or team control fould as the hand behind the head and will use the punch instead. All offensive fouls will use this mechanic.

[Kajun Ref N Texas]

Next year, we will no longer have the player or team control fould as the hand behind the head and will use the punch instead. All offensive fouls will use this mechanic.[/QUOTE]


The change I read was that the "punch" was just for team control, not for player control. For player control, we still use the old hand behind the head signal.

Can anyone point to an authoritative source that answers this question?

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Kajun Ref N Texas

Next year, we will no longer have the player or team control fould as the hand behind the head and will use the punch instead. All offensive fouls will use this mechanic.

The change I read was that the "punch" was just for team control, not for player control. For player control, we still use the old hand behind the head signal.

Can anyone point to an authoritative source that answers this question?[/quote]I cannot speak for what Texas may do, but here is what the Fed said about the new signal (the emphasis is mine):

TEAM-CONTROL FOUL SIGNAL ADDED (Signal Chart): A new signal has been added for a team-control foul. The arm is extended forward and the fist is punched. The new signal will eliminate confusion at the scorer’s table and with players, coaches and fans. The signal will communicate that the ball is going the other direction and no free throws will be attempted. The player-control foul signal has not changed (hand behind the head); both signals should be preceded by the stop clock for a foul signal (arm extended over head with the fist).

[FrankHtown]

At camp last week (Houston), we were instructed that a Texas Exception for 2006-2007 would be the punch for all player/team control fouls. We'll see what happens in October at the State Meeting