up in the attic

Nevadaref · #1 (**permalink**) Mon May 29, 2006, 10:24pm

Who can provide a little help researching an old NFHS rule? I need to know exactly what season the 2' radius circle at center court was removed from the rules. Remember that one which each jumper had to have one foot in prior to the toss? I only have rulesbooks in my possession back to 2001-02 and it disappeared before that season. So who's willing to climb up into MTD's attic and find out for me?

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. · #2 (**permalink**) Mon May 29, 2006, 11:10pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Who can provide a little help researching an old NFHS rule? I need to know exactly what season the 2' radius circle at center court was removed from the rules. Remember that one which each jumper had to have one foot in prior to the toss? I only have rulesbooks in my possession back to 2001-02 and it disappeared before that season. So who's willing to climb up into MTD's attic and find out for me?

NevadaRef:

I can't do it right now. BUT, if no one has researched an answer for you by 03:30pm, I will climb up in my attic and get the answer for you. I would like to do it now, but really can't do it any earlier that 03:30pm today. Out of idle curosity, what pray tell prompted this inquiry?

MTD, Sr.

Nevadaref · #3 (**permalink**) Mon May 29, 2006, 11:27pm

I worked a couple of championship games at a local AAU tournament today with a good friend of mine on a court which still had the little circle. I remarked to him that the federation had done away with the rule that required it and his response was something to the effect of "Really? How long ago was that?" I guessed about eight years, but told him that I would find out for sure.

BktBallRef · #4 (**permalink**) Mon May 29, 2006, 11:28pm

It was pre-1998-99. I have the ARS rule books stored on my computer back to that season. The 2' radius circle does not appear in the diagram, nor is it listed as a change for that year.

Snake~eyes · #5 (**permalink**) Tue May 30, 2006, 12:06am

The oldest rulebook I have is 99-00 and it does NOT have the 2 foot circle in it, it also does not list it as a rule change. I know that's somewhat redundant of what Tony said but I just thought I'd share too.

Back In The Saddle · #6 (**permalink**) Tue May 30, 2006, 02:59am

According to the "Chronology of Basketball Rules" in the Basketball Handbook, which is genuinely fascinating reading, the two-foot center circle was deleted in 1995. I assume that's the '95-96 season, but don't know for sure.

It was the same season that the "double bonus", the three-tenths of a second rule, airborne-defender exception to over and back, and disqualifying bench personnel who leave the bench area for a fight rules were added.

Adam · #7 (**permalink**) Tue May 30, 2006, 07:30pm

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According to the "Chronology of Basketball Rules" in the Basketball Handbook, which is genuinely fascinating reading, the two-foot center circle was deleted in 1995. I assume that's the '95-96 season, but don't know for sure.

It was the same season that the "double bonus", the three-tenths of a second rule, airborne-defender exception to over and back, and disqualifying bench personnel who leave the bench area for a fight rules were added.

I think I'm going to add an "airborne defender" exception to the over the back rule this year.

Back In The Saddle · #8 (**permalink**) Tue May 30, 2006, 08:23pm

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I think I'm going to add an "airborne defender" exception to the over the back rule this year.

I like it. I can see how it will make my job easier:

Coach: He's going over my guy's back.
Me: He's airborne, Coach. That's legal this year.
Coach: Jaw hits the floor, mutters incoherently.
Asst. Coach, to Coach: It's okay. You can still whine about 3 seconds.
Coach: Smiles confidently and goes back to coaching.

BktBallRef · #9 (**permalink**) Tue May 30, 2006, 09:17pm

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Originally Posted by Snake~eyes

The oldest rulebook I have is 99-00 and it does NOT have the 2 foot circle in it, it also does not list it as a rule change. I know that's somewhat redundant of what Tony said but I just thought I'd share too.

Thanks snake. Don't know what we would have done without that little tidbit.

Been drinking again, eh?

Nevadaref · #10 (**permalink**) Wed May 31, 2006, 12:33am

Thanks for the answer guys.
I actually have the 2002-04 handbook, but never thought of looking in it for this. And BITS is right, it is actually a good read. Lots of interesting stuff.

Snake~eyes · #11 (**permalink**) Wed May 31, 2006, 01:03pm

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Thanks snake. Don't know what we would have done without that little tidbit.

Been drinking again, eh?

Not quite. I got the rulebook out and I didn't want to feel like I did it for nothing.