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afrothunda Mon Apr 10, 2006 09:32pm

NBA two man.....CAVS game
 
Anyone watching the Cavs and Hornets Game!!!!! They lost an official in the 4th quarter. Its nice to see the NBA using two man.

JRutledge Mon Apr 10, 2006 09:49pm

Who was the official that got hurt?

Peace

afrothunda Mon Apr 10, 2006 10:13pm

Ken Mauer was one official but I dont know who the official that got injured was. All I know is that he got injured near the 10 minute mark in the 4th quarter. There positioning was very interested near the end of the game. I wonder how familiar they are with two man or if they just have to go back to what they knew from officiating two man from ealier in there life.

Snake~eyes Mon Apr 10, 2006 10:59pm

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Originally Posted by afrothunda
Ken Mauer was one official but I dont know who the official that got injured was. All I know is that he got injured near the 10 minute mark in the 4th quarter. There positioning was very interested near the end of the game. I wonder how familiar they are with two man or if they just have to go back to what they knew from officiating two man from ealier in there life.

Not the first time I've seen them have to resort to two person mechanics due to injury. Also they worked two person in the NBA Celebrity game

ChuckElias Tue Apr 11, 2006 06:17am

If I'm not mistaken, they were forced to go 2-whistle during the playoffs last year or the year before in 2 different games, b/c of injuries. We talked about it briefly on the forum.

All_Heart Tue Apr 11, 2006 07:34am

The officials were Ken Mauer, Matt Boland & Scott Foster. I don't know which one got hurt.

refTN Tue Apr 11, 2006 04:16pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by afrothunda
Ken Mauer was one official but I dont know who the official that got injured was. All I know is that he got injured near the 10 minute mark in the 4th quarter. There positioning was very interested near the end of the game. I wonder how familiar they are with two man or if they just have to go back to what they knew from officiating two man from ealier in there life.

The pros are decently familiar with the 2 man system, especially the guys with about 15 years in the league. It is discussed in the NBA officials manual, so that is where probably some of the young ones get there info.

tjones1 Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:38pm

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Originally Posted by ChuckElias
If I'm not mistaken, they were forced to go 2-whistle during the playoffs last year or the year before in 2 different games, b/c of injuries. We talked about it briefly on the forum.

They didn't have the alternate back then?

ChuckElias Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:40pm

I think they only use an alternate for the conference finals and the NBA finals. I think.

tjones1 Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:41pm

Good point, you'd think they'd have one for every playoff game.

26 Year Gap Wed Apr 12, 2006 06:30pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChuckElias
I think they only use an alternate for the conference finals and the NBA finals. I think.


I think a private message to M&M is in order. I think.;)

Dribble Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:47pm

If I'm not mistaken, last year was the first year they started having an alternate in every game of the playoffs due to the injuries the year prior.

The NBA two-man system is more similiar to the FIBA mechanics and would look very different to those doing NFHS. You essentially return to your "home" side of the court and trail initiates the rotations, but you return "home" as soon as possible. I don't have my NBA mechanics manual with me, so I can't confirm this though...this is just what I gathered from talking to the pros.

Snake~eyes Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:25am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dribble
If I'm not mistaken, last year was the first year they started having an alternate in every game of the playoffs due to the injuries the year prior.

The NBA two-man system is more similiar to the FIBA mechanics and would look very different to those doing NFHS. You essentially return to your "home" side of the court and trail initiates the rotations, but you return "home" as soon as possible. I don't have my NBA mechanics manual with me, so I can't confirm this though...this is just what I gathered from talking to the pros.

From what I have noticed it is the same as NFHS in that the Lead rotates to strong side.

ChuckElias Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:02am

Snake, it's more like the OLD high school mechanics, where you had a "normal" position, and a "reverse box" position. You always box in at the beginning of the play, but if that put you in the "reverse" position, then the Lead and Trail would both switch sides of the court in the middle of the play to get back to their "normal" position.

So if the ball goes OOB on the "wrong" sideline, the Trail goes over to administer the throw-in, but then crosses the court during play to get back to his/her correct sideline.

Snake~eyes Thu Apr 13, 2006 02:11pm

Chuck,
I didn't notice any of that when I watched, I wasn't paying too close attention. I will take a closer look next time they are working 2-person.


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