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A couple of rules questions
I was the scorer for several games this weekend for a tournament. Out of 17 games, there was only 1 "what do we do?". I ask you if the officials came up with the right answer.
Jump ball, team A has the possesion arrow. Team A takes ball out on the baseline, player starts running the baseline like a made basket. Ref blows the whistle, calls the violation. Team B takes ball out, throws it in and jump ball immediately occurs. The official making the call says team B's ball. Other ref says team A's. Both refs discuss and give ball to team A. Should have the possession arrow changed after team A's throw in violation? Next question is just something I observed and have no idea if it's correct. Player A1 passes to A2 but ball is tipped by defense. The ball is rolling along the floor. A2 tries to get the ball bouncing while chasing it and the ball just keeps rolling. He is unable to get it to bounce after about 4 or 5 slaps at it. Ref blows the whistle and calls traveling. Correct? |
I'm not an official, just a scorekeeper like yourself, but I asked a very similar question here:
http://forum.officiating.com/showthread.php?t=24786 Based on what I was told in that thread I would say yes change the arrow on the inbouding violation, so if I read your post right I'd say they kicked the call Lets see if I'm right. |
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On the 2nd play, the official is just making stuff up. One cannot travel without control of the ball. Another situation where ugly or unusual does not merit a whistle--- play on. |
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Jurassic
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The AP arrow should have changed to B, however their throw-in was not an AP throw-in, it a was normal throw-in following a violation. The subsenquent held ball should have went to B as result of the new AP status.
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JR who should have the ball??
Jurrasic,
I might be misreading your posts, but in your first post I understand you to say that A should have the ball?? I agree that A loses the arrow when they violate. B now has the arrow and the ball for a throw in. The throw in results in a held ball. B should now have the AP throw in correct?? |
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Jurrasic,
Why are we switching the arrow on a throw in that isn't an AP throw in??? |
On the AP question, since A violated their AP opportunity by not adhering to the spot throw in, this resulted in the next AP opportunity being given to B. A has committed a violation and B is given the ball to inbound as a result of the violation, not the AP. Once inbounded, there is a held ball, possession is awarded to B.
B does not get penalized for A's violation. |
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Better go back and change a few posts..... |
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BadNewsRef showed me the error of my ways.... |
nice call JR
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And I see a lot of violations called on "ugly". And there's a lot of "ugly" in youth basketball :) |
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