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Old Sat Mar 18, 2006, 02:29am
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Why do they almost always insist there should be a warning when their player reaches across the plane and slaps the ball on a throw-in?
12 year old girls AAU tonight. 3 games. 5 coaches were great. My partner gets into a real short discussion with the assistant coach, ending very quickly with "I've heard enough." This after he called his player for an elbow violation.
First two games went great. Third one is a slug fest between two decent defenses that couldn't shoot straight. Called my first double foul in quite a while. Two T's, one for reaching across the plane and slapping the ball, the other for 6 players. I hated that one. Mass substitutions and we both missed it until it was too late.

Ah, but it was the last game of the night.
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Old Sat Mar 18, 2006, 08:46am
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Why do they almost always insist there should be a warning when their player reaches across the plane and slaps the ball on a throw-in?
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Perhaps the coaches think that the defender's hand penetrated the plane before the defender touched the ball, or perhaps they do not think.
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Old Sat Mar 18, 2006, 01:16pm
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Actually, I think the problem is that they DO think, but they don't think very well.
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Old Sat Mar 18, 2006, 02:35pm
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Perhaps they don't know the rules as well as you and/or wishing is stronger than knowing.

Now you can return to your stereotyping because I know it's more fun for you.
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Old Sat Mar 18, 2006, 03:20pm
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I'd say it's more "generalizing" than "stereotyping." It also happens more in AAU than high school, simply because they're less experienced.
There are exceptions, but that's why it's a generalization.
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Old Sat Mar 18, 2006, 09:54pm
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I think there's too much thinking going on here!
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Old Sat Mar 18, 2006, 09:58pm
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I'd say it's more "generalizing" than "stereotyping." It also happens more in AAU than high school, simply because they're less experienced.
There are exceptions, but that's why it's a generalization.
Fair enough. I think that these are the areas of the rules - warning vs. whacking - that even the better coaches will be slower to pick up because they have less impact on what they work on in practice. Coaches will spend more time working on violations like travelling and backcourt and should touch on the rules for reaching across the plane but are less likely to spend a lot of time and to always be clear on the consequences.

It's one thing to read the rules through but to really learn is to practice or teach someone else. Of course I'm conveniently ignoring the fact that some coaches haven't even read the rule book - but even if they had they won't have absorbed most of it with the same level of detail that an official would. Presumably the good ones will have absorbed, to a reasonable level, the rules that are at the core of the fundamentals they are teaching. It's a nice theory, anyway.
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Old Sat Mar 18, 2006, 10:03pm
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Presumably the good ones will have absorbed, to a reasonable level, the rules that are at the core of the fundamentals they are teaching.
Reasonable enough to bad-mouth a proper call ?
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Old Sat Mar 18, 2006, 10:08pm
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Presumably the good ones will have absorbed, to a reasonable level, the rules that are at the core of the fundamentals they are teaching.
Reasonable enough to bad-mouth a proper call ?
My wife is going into labor any minute so I don't think I want to step in something I don't have time to scrape off.
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Old Sat Mar 18, 2006, 10:13pm
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Presumably the good ones will have absorbed, to a reasonable level, the rules that are at the core of the fundamentals they are teaching.
Reasonable enough to bad-mouth a proper call ?
My wife is going into labor any minute so I don't think I want to step in something I don't have time to scrape off.
Good luck with that ! Be well.
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Presumably the good ones will have absorbed, to a reasonable level, the rules that are at the core of the fundamentals they are teaching.
Reasonable enough to bad-mouth a proper call ?
My wife is going into labor any minute so I don't think I want to step in something I don't have time to scrape off.
Seriously?!? May it be entirely routine, and be sure we all know the "outcome"!
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Seriously?!? May it be entirely routine, and be sure we all know the "outcome"!
Thanks. Will do.
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