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TussAgee11 Thu Mar 16, 2006 05:22pm

I forget what they are called, but why isn't the NCAA using the packs on the officials for tournament games. The same thing happened in the BC game, extra time ran off and they had to go put more back on.

The system works, and the officials are used to it (most conferences use it), so why not implement? I hate delays!

Nevadaref Thu Mar 16, 2006 05:54pm

Last year the NCAA tourney didn't use the precision timing because not all of the venues were equipped for it.

It takes some set up and testing in the arena. Stray noise can sometimes mess with the system.

BktballRef had good info on this last year and likely will know more.

BktBallRef Thu Mar 16, 2006 06:01pm

They haven't used it in the past two seasons. No all venues have it, the NCAA is unwilling to purchase it for those venues, and PT is unwilling to provide it for free. So if they can't use it everywhere, they dn't use it at all.

The New Guy Thu Mar 16, 2006 06:02pm

You mentioned that not all arenas are equipped for it. Do you think that it is something that in the future all arenas wishing to host tournament games will be required to be equipped for it?

Thankfully the monitor can be used. Without it, some teams might get screwed.

BktBallRef Thu Mar 16, 2006 06:18pm

Honestly, I don't think the NCAA is that enthralled with it. They're only playing in 8 venues. The system is portable. They have millions and millions of dollars available. If they really wanted it, they could afford to buy it.

TriggerMN Thu Mar 16, 2006 06:43pm

Maybe this is 100% wrong, but I wonder if the NCAA would want officials using it for the first time in a tournament game. I know many conferences never use the precision timing system...

jbduke Thu Mar 30, 2006 08:35pm

One problem with using precision timing is that if it's implimented, then there's no justification for the stop-clock signal on out-of-bounds plays.:rolleyes:

jeffpea Fri Mar 31, 2006 08:51am

the NCAA should definitely implement the PT system for next years tournament. I'll bet I've seen at least 10 games in which the clocks were slow to stop and time had to be readjusted or at least reviewed.

We're only talking about purchasing systems for 14 sites (1 opening round site, 8 first/second rd sites, 4 Regional sites, and 1 Final Four location). It's not THAT big of an expense for the NCAA.....there must be some other rationale as to why they don't use it.

sleebo Mon Apr 03, 2006 11:59am

As far as the concern of using PT for the first time in a tournament game, that is not a factor. Precision time can be used to only stop the clock on a whistle. The clock can then be re-started by the table. It has been used this way during the past two years at the Kentucky High School Athletic Association state tournaments with absolutely no problems. The officials do not have to worry about 'being used to' the system. They are just fitted with the microphones and then they work the game just like they usually do.

BktBallRef Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:49pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbduke
One problem with using precision timing is that if it's implimented, then there's no justification for the stop-clock signal on out-of-bounds plays.:rolleyes:

The timer operates the clock just as he normally does. Therefore, the same signals are required.


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