Backcourt ?

[missinglink]

Two situations:State Class C championship game; 3 man crew.

1)A1 on Trail side pushes upfloor on dribble and picks up dribble while straddling division line (feet planted). She passes crosscourt to A2 who was in front court but is now straddling division line with both feet planted when she receives the crosscourt pass. A2 receives the pass cleanly and Trail immediately calls backcourt violation. I think this call was incorrect as neither player nor ball had FC status.......but then again, I missed 3 first time through the backcourt quiz.

2) Late in 4th quarter, A down by 3, star player B1 goes down hard while committing blcoking foul. She is writhing in pain and the tournament EMT comes on the floor without being beckoned. EMT examines girl (30 - 40 seconds), assists her to her feet and officials prepare to administer A's inbound pass. Coach A fervently maintains that B1 has to come out of the game. Officials confer and allow B1 to stay in and go on with the game. I am guessing that they determined that as the tournament EMT had not been beckoned the girl did not have to substitute out. I think that she should have been required to leave the game if you consider the EMT "bench personnel" serving both teams. According to 3-3-5, if bench personnel come onto the floor w/o being beckoned, substitution is required.

[BktBallRef]

1) As long as A2 was in the BC as well, it's not a violation.

2) An EMT is not bench personnel unless he's sitting on that team's bench.

[jkjenning]

The original post states that "According to 3-3-5, if bench personnel come onto the floor w/o being beckoned, substitution is required." - but according to 3-3-5 it does not matter whether the coach or bench personnel are beckoned. The rule simply states "If the coach or other bench personnel have come onto the court, the player must be replaced" ... or the coach can call a time-out in order to keep the player in the game.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by jkjenning
The original post states that "According to 3-3-5, if bench personnel come onto the floor w/o being beckoned, substitution is required." - but according to 3-3-5 it does not matter whether the coach or bench personnel are beckoned. The rule simply states "If the coach or other bench personnel have come onto the court, the player must be replaced" ... or the coach can call a time-out in order to keep the player in the game.

That's cool, but as BktBallRef has already said, no bench personnel ever came onto the court.

[jkjenning]

The reply was directed as missinglink, not BktBallRef; it seemed possible that missinglink was under the impression that beckoning, or not beckoning, would affect whether the player remained in the game. Sorry for any lack of clarity.

[missinglink]

Originally posted by BktBallRef
1) As long as A2 was in the BC as well, it's not a violation.

2) An EMT is not bench personnel unless he's sitting on that team's bench.

Glad I understood the back court. Regarding bench personnel. If the situation was changed as fols: it is now a home game and a home team player is injured. The home team athletic trainer, who is sitting in the stands behind the scorers table unilaterally comes onto the floor, treats the girl for 30-40 seconds and says she is good to go. Visitor's coach have any complaints? Within the letter or spirit of 3-3-5?