When a throw-in is to take place on a sideline deep in the front court (near the endline) is it the trail (or new trail/old centre) who always handles the ball?

Does one try to avoid such a situation and inbounds on the endline?

Where should the lead be positioned for such a throw in?

It appears there will be too many officials in zone 4 or zone 6 corner if lead stays ball side like he is supposed to.

Any comments would be greatly appreciated.

[Edited by tschriver on Jun 25th, 2001 at 08:40 AM]

First off what is zone 4 or zone 6?

However, In basic 3 person mechanics, if ball is to be brought in bounds on a sideline it must be lead or trail who does it, In fact I cant think of a time when C would bring the ball in at all ( I'm sure someone here will though). If ball is below FT line extended it is Lead, above FT line extended it is trail. I dont think you need to avoid inbounds from sideline near baseline. NF changed mechanics even to accomodate this better the last couple of years. Personally having the person on the sideline three or four feet away, with me on the baseline is easier to officiate than the person standing right next to you!

In NCAA Men's and NFHS, the Trail would administer the throw-in. The Trail should get the thrower-in positioned properly, then back up to a normal or close to normal T position before bouncing the ball to the thrower-in. That way the T is not backing out while the ball is live. On sideline throw-ins, the L should be wide ... but will need a good angle on post-play with the ball coming in that low.

In NCAA Women's, the Lead would administer the throw-in on the sideline below the free throw line extended. T would assume his/her normal position and chop the clock.

I believe you're mistaken. The official NF mechanic is for the trail to administer all throw-ins on the sideline, no matter how deep in the corner it may be. As rpwall stated, that's the purpose of the bounce pass. Position the thrower, back out, and bounce the ball to him.

Kelvin, to answer your question, zone 4 and 6 are the two rectangles located in the deep right and deep left of a frontcourt. There are a total a six zones, all of which are equal in size, created by dividing the frontcourt as follows:

6 5 4

1 2 3

Huh?
 

tschriver,
Who <s>made that up</s> coined that?
mick

Re: Huh?
 

It's a FIBA thing...and let's not start that thread all over again!!!

Re: Re: Huh?
 

JeffRef,
Now, why didn't I know that? :)
mick

Re: Re: Huh?
 

Figures! ;^)

Actually, the NF does allow for the lead to bounce the ball up the sideline for a throw-in below the FT line extended. It is not, however, required. It is left to the discretion of the officials based on the game. Also, if the call was on the trail's line, the trail would administer the throw-in. The purpose of this rules is to keep the trail/lead essentially performing a switch on an OOB sitution deep on the lead's line.

You are correct! There are a few possibilities though. I know in AZ we are using the Women's mechanics and the Lead would be able to bounce the ball in, however...you may pregame it so the Trail comes down and bounces it. Also, if the trail does it, he/she can take the "Center" spot as long as in your pregame you let each other know and that way the "real" center doesn't slide up to trail. The same as if you are center and the Lead comes over...you aren't required to go to trail until you release the play. It is ok to have two centers (temporarily)...but not to have two trails!

Just my two cents...

Not in 3 man.
 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Camron Rust

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Actually, the NF does allow for the lead to bounce the ball up the sideline for a throw-in below the FT line extended. It is not, however, required. It is left to the discretion of the officials based on the game. Also, if the call was on the trail's line, the trail would administer the throw-in. The purpose of this rules is to keep the trail/lead essentially performing a switch on an OOB sitution deep on the lead's line.

That is in two man, not three. To person the Trail is the only official that bounces the ball to a player on the sideline. The lead only worries about his line and the post players.

Re: Not in 3 man.
 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by JRutledge

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Originally posted by Camron Rust Quote: Actually, the NF does allow for the lead to bounce the ball up the sideline for a throw-in below the FT line extended. It is not, however, required. It is left to the discretion of the officials based on the game. Also, if the call was on the trail's line, the trail would administer the throw-in. The purpose of this rules is to keep the trail/lead essentially performing a switch on an OOB sitution deep on the lead's line. That is in two man, not three. To person the Trail is the only official that bounces the ball to a player on the sideline. The lead only worries about his line and the post players.

Rut, you can bounce it if you are the Lead and they are right there on the corner...if you pregame it!

Re: Re: Not in 3 man.
 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by dhodges007

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Originally posted by JRutledge Quote: Originally posted by Camron Rust Quote: Actually, the NF does allow for the lead to bounce the ball up the sideline for a throw-in below the FT line extended. It is not, however, required. It is left to the discretion of the officials based on the game. Also, if the call was on the trail's line, the trail would administer the throw-in. The purpose of this rules is to keep the trail/lead essentially performing a switch on an OOB sitution deep on the lead's line. That is in two man, not three. To person the Trail is the only official that bounces the ball to a player on the sideline. The lead only worries about his line and the post players. Rut, you can bounce it if you are the Lead and they are right there on the corner...if you pregame it!

Denny, as of when did this become a mechanic? This year?
Below is last year's change.


List of major changes to be reflected in the
1999-2000/2000-2001 Basketball Officials Manual
The following items reflect the major changes to be reflected in the 1999-2000/2000-2001 Basketball Officials Manual:

5. When the designated spot throw-in is to be taken on the sideline, below the free throw line extended (ball remaining in the frontcourt), the Lead official may remain on the endline and bounce the ball to the thrower (<b>two official crews only</b>). (220)

mick

now philosophy...

I like the idea of lead bouncing ball to someone (below FT Line).... My question my moving the player up the sideline does the person gain an advantage?

If someone has made a great/mediocre/marginal defensive play that forced the ball OOB and lets say it gets kicked out just a couple of feet from the baseline then by moving it up the sideline so that trail can get anywhere to administer now opens up the floor . The player can go left and right where as closer to the baseline the player is more handcuffed by the baseline. This may create an advantage, some what slight but there are coaches who would raise a serious rucous moving the ball up the floor for an inbounds pass.