Yes, but one official should then drop and turn and watch the rebounders while the other official retains the signal and stays with shooter.

Normally the trail will stay with it and the center will drop (essential pregame topic).

Z

Why should you drop it once it's up? I agree it's not necessary, but like chicken soup, it couldn't hoyt!

I've always been taught as long as you're signalling the attempt, you have the shooter in your primary. If the other official drops their signal, that tells the crew they are looking off-ball for rebounding, etc. If I see you keep the signal for the attempt, I'm not sure if I need to look off-ball or not, which could lead to two officials either watching the shooter, or worse, two officials not watching the shooter.

So, for me it's just that non-verbal communication between partners that lets each other know responsibilities and areas of coverage. As Z said, necessary in pre-game to keep from getting burned by any chicken soup that might be too hot. ;)

I vote with Z & M&M.

So who watches the actual shot attempt and signals the made 3 in a 3 whistle crew?

I know in 2 whistle, trail signals the made basket. If lead has indicated its a 3 point attempt then trail should always mirror the attempt and then signal the made if its good.

The official (T -OR- C) in whose primary the shot was taken indicates the attempt. (In NCAAW, if the shot is taken from the L's area, the L AND T indicate the attempt)

Both the T and the C signal if the basket is made. (In NCAAW, the L does not give an indication).

Of course, this can change if the basket is attempted during transition.

Gasp! Horrors! Isn't there mass confusion about whose primary the shot is in? What if we have 2 officials watching the shooter? Or worse, 2 officials NOT watching the shooter!?!?! Cats and dogs -- living together!! Mass hysteria!!!

:rolleyes:

Whoever's area the shooter is in, that's who will signal the attempt. I believe that is the same in both 2-whistle and 3. Once the shot is made, in 3-whistle the T and C both signal the made basket, in 2-whistle the T gives the signal.

I'm not sure I agree with your statement about the T giving the signal on the attempt in 2-whistle. I've always been taught whoever has on-ball coverage will be the one to signal the attempt. This tells me there are two sets of eyes on the ball, and no one watching off-ball. There are times where this might happen, such as when a dribbler comes out of one area, stops in the "gray area" and shoots, and both officials happen to be watching the shot. But in most cases, I think only one official should be giving the attempt.

In a 2-whistle game, the Trail always signals a made 3-pointer. If the shot originated from the Lead's primary, then the Lead will also indicate the made 3-pointer.

What's the worse that can happen - a hole torn in the universe? Exactly!

Maybe I've been doing it wrong, but I've never signaled the attempt at T if the L has the shot. If the L has the shot in the corner, I've got paint and low-block coverage. I do signal the made basket at T, and so does the C.

You may be misunderstanding me. I agree the person who's area of responsibility signals the attempt. If its the lead signalling the attempt the trail mirrors the attempt and then has the shot to signal the made. Lead should never watch the shot in 2 whistle. That is how I was taught and teach new officials.

I disagree. I would not drop out or have never been told to do so in this situation. Once again, the middle of the court is dual area. Depending on where the ball came from both officials can easily see the attempt. This is why areas are called a primary and a secondary.

Peace

So, are we agreeing or arguing?

I agree with everything you said except for the trail mirroring the attempt. Now, maybe I haven't done as much 2-whistle lately, but I always thought whoever has on-ball responsibility is the only one who gives the attempt.

What are you disagreeing with? That 1 official should stay with the shooter & the other official go with the shot for BI/GT and rebounding?

Or you just saying it's not a problem to have 6 fingers in the air?

If that's the case how do you know who has the shooter?