5 sec throw in

[Stan]

When does the 5 sec count end? Boys Varsity.

I'm there to watch a good ball game, no official capacity. Near end of half, something like 8 secs on clock, team A has throw in after made free throw by team B, no pressure in back court. Team A to save the clock, rolls the ball inbounds. I've seen this a gagillion times as good clock mgt to get a last shot, I've never called 5 sec. as I stop counting once the ball is released.

Young but up'n coming half of a two whistle crew calls 5 seconds.

Am I missing a new interp of 7-6-1 or is this just the coming part of up'n coming? I question myself because no coach, fan or player makes a peep.

Thanks, Stan

[WhistlesAndStripes]

It ends when the ball is released by the thrower. THere should be no 5 second call while the ball is rolling up the floor untouched by an inbound player, as long as it was released prior to the 5 seconds expiring.

[mick]

The up-n comer will be down 'n out when he sees what he did.

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by Stan
I question myself because no coach, fan or player makes a peep.

You question yourself based on the coaches' or fans' reactions? Better get over that in a hurry, Stan

[Oz Referee]

Originally posted by Stan
Young but up'n coming half of a two whistle crew calls 5 seconds.

Am I missing a new interp of 7-6-1 or is this just the coming part of up'n coming? I question myself because no coach, fan or player makes a peep.

Thanks, Stan

If you want to make the up'n comer feel better, let him know that if he was refereeing under FIBA rules he would have gotten the call right!

The 5 second count in FIBA ends when the ball is touched by a player on the court - ie the same time as the clock starts.

This is one area that I strongly feel FIBA makes more sense.

As I understand it, in theory under NFHS rules a player could gently throw the ball in (stopping the 5 second count) but if no player touches the ball, the game clock doesn't start. Theoretically then, the game could go on for eternity if no player ever makes contact with the ball. Crazy!!

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally posted by Oz Referee

If you want to make the up'n comer feel better, let him know that if he was refereeing under FIBA rules he would have gotten the call right!

The 5 second count in FIBA ends when the ball is touched by a player on the court - ie the same time as the clock starts.

This is one area that I strongly feel FIBA makes more sense.

As I understand it, in theory under NFHS rules a player could gently throw the ball in (stopping the 5 second count) but if no player touches the ball, the game clock doesn't start. Theoretically then, the game could go on for eternity if no player ever makes contact with the ball. Crazy!!

Except that if the offense isn't in a position to secure possession of the ball at any point, the defense will. And if it goes too long, the defense will make the offense pick it up, just to harass them. In theory it could last an eternity, in practice it never lasts more than a second or two.

[Adam]

Originally posted by Oz Referee
As I understand it, in theory under NFHS rules a player could gently throw the ball in (stopping the 5 second count) but if no player touches the ball, the game clock doesn't start. Theoretically then, the game could go on for eternity if no player ever makes contact with the ball. Crazy!!

Yeah, theories are funny that way.

[Stan]

Originally posted by ChuckElias

You question yourself based on the coaches' or fans' reactions? Better get over that in a hurry, Stan

I should've known better. Thanks for the replys.

[bob jenkins]

Originally posted by Snaqwells

Yeah, theories are funny that way.

In theory, theory and practice are the same.

In practice, they aren't.

[lookin2improve]

..inbound count ends on release...is it the same for backcourt count??

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by lookin2improve
..inbound count ends on release...is it the same for backcourt count??

Nope.

[Ref in PA]

Originally posted by lookin2improve
..inbound count ends on release...is it the same for backcourt count??

Backcourt count starts when team possession is acquired in backcourt. Backcourt count stops when ball acquires front court status or team possession is lost.

[M&M Guy]

So, in theory AND in practice, the throw-in count and backcourt count are ended differently. So Bob, how come theoretically they're the same if they're different?

[bob jenkins]

Originally posted by M&M Guy
So, in theory AND in practice, the throw-in count and backcourt count are ended differently. So Bob, how come theoretically they're the same if they're different?

They are the same in that they're both different from each other, except when they're not.