Tax question

[LouisianaDave]

I am wondering can I deduct my gym membership from my taxes due to the fact that I must stay in shape in order to referee. Any and all help is appreciated.

[Dan_ref]

You can deduct anything & everything you like.

If you'll get away with it is another question.

[M&M Guy]

Originally posted by Dan_ref

You can deduct anything & everything you like.

If you'll get away with it is another question.

Dan's not an accountant, but he did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

I've always been told items used to treat a specific ailment are deductible, but preventative items are not. In other words, something like Advil would be a deductible medical expense, but vitamins are not. Along those same lines, a gym membership used to get and stay in shape would not be deductible, but if your doctor prescribed the membership to treat a particular problem, that would be a deductible expense.

As always, check with your tax advisor to see what's right for you.

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by M&M Guy

Dan's not an accountant, but he did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

I've always been told items used to treat a specific ailment are deductible, but preventative items are not. In other words, something like Advil would be a deductible medical expense, but vitamins are not. Along those same lines, a gym membership used to get and stay in shape would not be deductible, but if your doctor prescribed the membership to treat a particular problem, that would be a deductible expense.

As always, check with your tax advisor to see what's right for you.

Hmmmm...can you actually deduct as a business expense against your officiating income the cost of a gym membership, even if it was prescribed by a doctor?

IIRC medical expenses are subject to strict limitations & are a line item of their own on the regular deductions form.

Also...I believe you can claim a business expense to the extent that you use it for your business. In the OP's case he would need to argue the use of the gym is entirely related to his business, for whatever reason, to be a legitimate busness expense, or to take a partial expense claim based on the amount he believes the gym applies to business use vs non-business use. Seems like tricky stuff to me.

And you're right, I'm not a tax expert, and I can't even remember the last time I slept in a Holiday Inn Express.

[M&M Guy]

Originally posted by Dan_ref
IIRC medical expenses are subject to strict limitations & are a line item of their own on the regular deductions form.

Agreed. It would depend on if he was filing a separate Schedule C for the referee income, or if he was just adding it to his 1040.

Originally posted by Dan_ref
Also...I believe you can claim a business expense to the extent that you use it for your business. In the OP's case he would need to argue the use of the gym is entirely related to his business, for whatever reason, to be a legitimate busness expense, or to take a partial expense claim based on the amount he believes the gym applies to business use vs non-business use. Seems like tricky stuff to me.

Again, that's why he needs to talk to a real tax advisor. My limited knowledge might actually be more dangerous than someone who knows nothing at all. But my initial reaction would be that it's not deductible, given it would be hard to prove the membership was ONLY for the refereeing, and not for general health and fitness.

Originally posted by Dan_ref
And you're right, I'm not a tax expert, and I can't even remember the last time I slept in a Holiday Inn Express.

Maybe he needs to park out in front of one and start asking people as they come out of their rooms? You never know, he might get lucky...(er, I mean, find the right answer to his tax question).

[zebraman]

Dan's doctor told him he needed to join a gym to stay in shape for officiating.

Dan said he'd like a second opinion.

The doctor said, "OK Dan, you're ugly too."

Ba-da-boom.

Z

[deecee]

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[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by zebraman
Dan's doctor told him he needed to join a gym to stay in shape for officiating.

Dan said he'd like a second opinion.

The doctor said, "OK Dan, you're ugly too."

Ba-da-boom.

Z

Geeze, ever since it was decided this forum would remain humorless on-topic I've been called bitter, old & now ugly. There's no justice I tell ya!!!



Zebraman's eye doctor tells him he better stop...well, you know...or he'll go blind.

Zebraman asks if he can just keep doing it until he needs glasses, he can deduct them from his taxes.

I'll be here through the weekend folks...don't forget to tip your waitress

[johnny1784]

Originally posted by Dan_ref

Geeze, ever since it was decided this forum would remain humorless on-topic I've been called bitter, old & now ugly. There's no justice I tell ya!!!



Zebraman's eye doctor tells him he better stop...well, you know...or he'll go blind.

Zebraman asks if he can just keep doing it until he needs glasses, he can deduct them from his taxes.

I'll be here through the weekend folks...don't forget to tip your waitress

After eating out, do you always tip the waitress?




Ps
Age is only a number, ugly is when your age reaches quadruple digits.

[Ref Daddy]

Me thinks not.

Had a few 'discussions' with the old IRS about business expenses myself.

The IRS looks at business expenses and their EXCLUSIVITY and PERTENANCE to the business need.

A three piece business suit is not duductable because you can wear it outside of your business. A home office is deductable only to the portion USED FOR BUSINESS.

A club membership to stay in shape for refereeing sounds rather weak IMHO. I'm betting IF they allowed any of it it would be severly limited to season time of maybe the month before.

Beware - the more weird stuff you do the harder they look!

Get a doctors note that you must be in an inside Gym and then write that off as a medical expense - not a business for refereeing.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by Dan_ref
[/B]

Geeze, ever since it was decided this forum would remain humorless on-topic I've been called bitter, old & now ugly. There's no justice I tell ya!!!

don't forget to tip your waitress

[/B][/QUOTE]No justice? You are bitter, old and ugly. Case dismissed.

Waitress tipping? Is that like cow tipping? Are the waitresses as happy as the cows? Does a tipped waitress count if they're in the air when the horn goes off?

[M&M Guy]

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

Geeze, ever since it was decided this forum would remain humorless on-topic I've been called bitter, old & now ugly. There's no justice I tell ya!!!

don't forget to tip your waitress

[/B]

No justice? You are bitter, old and ugly. Case dismissed.

Waitress tipping? Is that like cow tipping? Are the waitresses as happy as the cows? Does a tipped waitress count if they're in the air when the horn goes off? [/B][/QUOTE]

Ahh...the more things change, the more they stay the same.

Which horn, by the way - shot clock, game clock, or bull?

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by M&M Guy

No justice? You are bitter, old and ugly. Case dismissed.

Waitress tipping? Is that like cow tipping? Are the waitresses as happy as the cows? Does a tipped waitress count if they're in the air when the horn goes off? [/B]

Ahh...the more things change, the more they stay the same.

Which horn, by the way - shot clock, game clock, or bull? [/B][/QUOTE]

At least he's keeping to the new "no humor" rule.

[M&M Guy]

Originally posted by Dan_ref
At least he's keeping to the new "no humor" rule.

At least I'm staying on-topic - this thread has become rather taxing, wouldn't you say?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by Dan_ref

Ahh...the more things change, the more they stay the same.

Which horn, by the way - shot clock, game clock, or bull? [/B]

At least he's keeping to the new "no humor" rule. [/B][/QUOTE]Shut up.