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[refTN]

This should be quick Q and A:

First of two shot free throw. Two players from each team simultaneously violate. Watcha got.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by refTN

This should be quick Q and A:

First of two shot free throw. Two players from each team simultaneously violate. Watcha got.

From my learnings, if the same type of violation (B2 & A2 into lane too soon) make the decision who violated first drawing opponent with him.

If distinct violations, B1 in lane too soon and A1 crosses 3-pt line early: double violation go to 2nd free. Or how about, B1 in lane too soon and A1 shoots an airball: Double violation

No NFHS rulebook handy, but check Rule 9 Sect 2 Art 4 for NCAA.

[ChuckElias]

If they are truly simultaneous, then you wipe the first FT and shoot the second as normal.

[deecee]

just to stir the pot -- double simultaneous violation on the first of 2 why would we waive it off -- no advantage gained.

[ChuckElias]

Originally Posted by deecee

just to stir the pot -- double simultaneous violation on the first of 2 why would we waive it off -- no advantage gained.

Because that's the rule. If both violations are lane violations, and one comes first, then you only penalize the first. But if both occur at the same time (simultaneous), you wave off the basket and either (1) shoot the second FT or (2) go to the arrow if there are no more FTs to be shot.

[BktBallRef]

Why would there be a double violation on the first of two? Where are the players going?

[SmokeEater]

Originally Posted by ChuckElias

Because that's the rule. If both violations are lane violations, and one comes first, then you only penalize the first. But if both occur at the same time (simultaneous), you wave off the basket and either (1) shoot the second FT or (2) go to the arrow if there are no more FTs to be shot.

I know its the rule and its what I follow. I feel it penalizes the shooting team regardless. I try as best I can to determine if one player or the other violated first or drew the other player into a violation. It just seems a little more fair to have the penalty fit should the shooting team lose the shot attempt. JMO, its not always possible to do this, and thats why the rule is there.