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johnnyrao Sat Jan 28, 2006 02:01pm

I alled a T on a coach last night for coming out of the coach's box and on the floor to argue a call. It was just after the buzzer for halftime. He tried to say he was heading to the locker room but he was extremely vocal against us. IMO, he deserved it. He came back on the court with his team with about 2:30 lest on the clock for halftime. He sat on his bench and proceeded to stare me down for the remainder of the halftime intermissiomn. I ignored him and did not play his silly game. How would you handle this? Would you ignore it? Would you warn him? I did nothing and everything seemed to calm down once we started the second half. We completed the game with no other problems from him.

rainmaker Sat Jan 28, 2006 02:10pm

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Originally posted by johnnyrao
I alled a T on a coach last night for coming out of the coach's box and on the floor to argue a call. It was just after the buzzer for halftime. He tried to say he was heading to the locker room but he was extremely vocal against us. IMO, he deserved it. He came back on the court with his team with about 2:30 lest on the clock for halftime. He sat on his bench and proceeded to stare me down for the remainder of the halftime intermissiomn. I ignored him and did not play his silly game. How would you handle this? Would you ignore it? Would you warn him? I did nothing and everything seemed to calm down once we started the second half. We completed the game with no other problems from him.
Since it worked out as you say, it was the right thing to do. I don't usually respond to the stare down if it's from a distance. Others whack for this automatically. If I'm correct in piecing together info from this thread and from your other thread, it would have been this coach's second T. I'm not sure that would have been a good move. Sounds like it worked this time. Next time you might have to give him his walking papers.

Snake~eyes Sat Jan 28, 2006 02:36pm

Well this is a tough situation, you cannot T him up (JMO) a second time for staring you down, just imagine filling out that report. I'm interested to see what others say though.

ChuckElias Sat Jan 28, 2006 02:42pm

I think everybody knows my thought on this. You can't T a person for doing literally nothing. You had it exactly right. Just don't play the game.

zebraman Sat Jan 28, 2006 03:23pm

You did the right thing. Don't play his silly game. Let him stand there making a jerk out of himself in front of everyone. And wasn't it Dan that said that's the reason that referee pants have front pockets? :D

Z

Mark Padgett Sat Jan 28, 2006 04:25pm

Guys - of course you stare back - directly at his pants. Haven't you learned anything? :confused:

johnnyrao Sat Jan 28, 2006 05:31pm

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Guys - of course you stare back - directly at his pants. Haven't you learned anything? :confused:
Mark,

I'm not real good with on the spot comebacks but do you have any good one liners I could say to him as I pass by to start the second half?

zebra44 Sat Jan 28, 2006 05:44pm

No comebacks needed.....stay professional........get in,get done, get out.

Texas Aggie Sat Jan 28, 2006 05:51pm

A coach wouldn't be staring me down since I'm not paying attention to the coach at that point. If he wants to look my way intently, go for it. I don't care what he or anyone else thinks.

Realize that all people who do childish things are only embarrasing themselves.

canuckrefguy Sat Jan 28, 2006 09:19pm

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Originally posted by Mark Padgett
Guys - of course you stare back - directly at his pants. Haven't you learned anything? :confused:
Oh that's a good one....

Coach stares you down. You stare back, glancing down at his pants. He looks down. You smile and say "made you look" :D

Classic!


archer Mon Jan 30, 2006 09:06am

Wack him for ilegal gazing!

rainmaker Mon Jan 30, 2006 12:10pm

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Originally posted by johnnyrao
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Originally posted by Mark Padgett
Guys - of course you stare back - directly at his pants. Haven't you learned anything? :confused:
Mark,

I'm not real good with on the spot comebacks but do you have any good one liners I could say to him as I pass by to start the second half?

Johnny, very, very few of us can get away with snappy comebacks, especially in the OP sitch. Usually it just inflames the people involved and leads to more trouble. By the time the coach is staring, he's used up his resources, and can only resort to childish defiance. If you throw that back in his face, showing him up with your rapier wit, you might as well just toss him right on the spot and get it over with. There are exceptions to this rule, of course, since there are some refs who have exactly the right demeanor to pull this off. But you don't want to learn the hard way that you're not one of them. I had to learn it the hard way, and it wasn't pleasant.

JugglingReferee Mon Jan 30, 2006 12:21pm

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Originally posted by johnnyrao
he was extremely vocal against us. IMO, he deserved it.
That's all that matters.

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Originally posted by johnnyrao
He sat on his bench and proceeded to stare me down for the remainder of the halftime intermissiomn. I ignored him and did not play his silly game.
Good idea. Let him stew in his own anger.

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How would you handle this? Would you ignore it? Would you warn him?
I would have handled it such that we never heard from him again.

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Originally posted by johnnyrao
I did nothing and everything seemed to calm down once we started the second half. We completed the game with no other problems from him.
I guess I would have ignored him, too!

Good job!

ditttoo Mon Jan 30, 2006 03:10pm

Very difficult to argue with silence...often better to stay silent than going for the snappy one liner and removing all doubt. Also, silence is a lot easier to explain later on if you have to.

Junker Mon Jan 30, 2006 03:52pm

Ignoring the coach is the best way of handling this. You don't want a "staring contest." Goulet! Trigger....are you reading this one. You win again, you always do.


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