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blindzebra Thu Jan 19, 2006 03:46pm

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Originally posted by Snake~eyes
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Originally posted by blindzebra
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Originally posted by Snake~eyes
Two comments,
1) It would have been better if someone else called the T because now you are reporting TWO fouls on White #3.
2) Don't give an explanation unless a coach asks for one.

How, in this situation, is someone else going to call the T on him?

Are you suggesting walking 30 feet over to your partner and telling them, "White #3 told me that's BS, so you give him the T, okay?"

No that is not what I'm suggesting. Why are you twisting what I said like that?

All I said was it would have been better for someone else to get the T, that's it. And I know that's not always possible so sometimes you gotta do watchu gotta do.

Unless it is a very overt display by A #3, it is a rare situation where 2 officials would be close enough for the non-calling official...this was a 2 person game...to call a T.

In a perfect world A #3 isn't cussing and every coach never says a word, I've never reffed in that world.;)

I agree that it looks better for a partner to whack a coach if it is their 2nd T, but a player or coach immediately reacting to a call right beside you, I'd say it makes the calling official look weak if their partner comes and gets it.

Ref Daddy Thu Jan 19, 2006 03:46pm

Great Coach trap, when you call a T on vulgarity:

Coach; "Whats the T for?"
Ref: "profanity Coach"
Coach: "What did he say?"
Ref: "Innapropriate language"
Coach: "What did he say exactly, tell me, I want to talk to him about it"

(Watch you response here.)

blindzebra Thu Jan 19, 2006 03:49pm

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Originally posted by Ref Daddy
Great Coach trap, when you call a T on vulgarity:

Coach; "Whats the T for?"
Ref: "profanity Coach"
Coach: "What did he say?"
Ref: "Innapropriate language"
Coach: "What did he say exactly, tell me, I want to talk to him about it"

(Watch you response here.)

Not that hard.

He said BS.

The s word.

Dropped an F-bomb.

ChuckElias Thu Jan 19, 2006 04:07pm

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Originally posted by Ref Daddy
Great Coach trap, when you call a T on vulgarity:

Coach; "Whats the T for?"
Ref: "profanity Coach"
Coach: "What did he say?"
Ref: "Innapropriate language"
Coach: "What did he say exactly, tell me, I want to talk to him about it"

Ask him, Coach. He knows.

Dan_ref Thu Jan 19, 2006 04:13pm

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Originally posted by Ref Daddy
Great Coach trap, when you call a T on vulgarity:

Coach; "Whats the T for?"
Ref: "profanity Coach"
Coach: "What did he say?"
Ref: "Innapropriate language"
Coach: "What did he say exactly, tell me, I want to talk to him about it"

Ask him, Coach. He knows.

Not me.

Coach: "What's the T for?"
Me: "He said the call was bull****."

Jurassic Referee Thu Jan 19, 2006 04:23pm

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Originally posted by Dan_ref
[/B]
Coach: "What's the T for?"
Me: "He said the call was bull****."
[/B][/QUOTE]Coach now gives the prescribed response as per p23 of the coaches manual- "he was right."

Dan sez?



Dan_ref Thu Jan 19, 2006 04:43pm

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
Coach: "What's the T for?"
Me: "He said the call was bull****."
[/B]
Coach now gives the prescribed response as per p23 of the coaches manual- "he was right."

Dan sez?


[/B][/QUOTE]

Depends...although I gotta admit I would probably not T the kid for saying bull**** unless the entire gym heard it to begin with.

My point is cutting to the chase is far better than going through "what did he say?" "I aint telling!" for 5 minutes. If the kid offended you come right out & tell what he said.

And IMO "Ask him" is inviting trouble

Ref: "Ask him"
Coach: "What did you say??"
Player: "I didn't say nuffin...snifff..he's just a mean man!"


Jurassic Referee Thu Jan 19, 2006 04:59pm

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Originally posted by Dan_ref
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
Coach: "What's the T for?"
Me: "He said the call was bull****."
Coach now gives the prescribed response as per p23 of the coaches manual- "he was right."

Dan sez?


[/B]
My point is cutting to the chase is far better than going through "what did he say?" "I aint telling!" for 5 minutes. If the kid offended you come right out & tell what he said.

And IMO "Ask him" is inviting trouble

[/B][/QUOTE]I agree with that. He's heard the words before.

Now answer the question, weasel-boy.

After you do it your way and the coach sez "he was right, do you:
a) Ignore him.
b) warn him
c) "T" him up
d) laugh/giggle
e) tell him to "shut up".
f) puke on his shoes and/or stare at his pants
g) other

Inquiring minds need to know!

Dan_ref Thu Jan 19, 2006 05:07pm

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
Coach: "What's the T for?"
Me: "He said the call was bull****."
Coach now gives the prescribed response as per p23 of the coaches manual- "he was right."

Dan sez?


My point is cutting to the chase is far better than going through "what did he say?" "I aint telling!" for 5 minutes. If the kid offended you come right out & tell what he said.

And IMO "Ask him" is inviting trouble

[/B]
I agree with that. He's heard the words before.

Now answer the question, weasel-boy.

After you do it your way and the coach sez "he was right, do you:
a) Ignore him.
b) warn him
c) "T" him up
d) laugh/giggle
e) tell him to "shut up".
f) puke on his shoes and/or stare at his pants
g) other

Inquiring minds need to know!
[/B][/QUOTE]

Again, the kid would normally have to go much further than a whispered "bul****" before he gets my attention. But let's say I'm in a bad mood & I've had enough, and it works out as you say it might (which it might, which is why I don't have such a touchy trigger btw).

Then my answer is still it depends, although I'm really leaning towards d) laugh/giggle.

But you? You get e) tell him to "shut up".

Jurassic Referee Thu Jan 19, 2006 05:17pm

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Originally posted by Dan_ref
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
Coach: "What's the T for?"
Me: "He said the call was bull****."
Coach now gives the prescribed response as per p23 of the coaches manual- "he was right."

Dan sez?


My point is cutting to the chase is far better than going through "what did he say?" "I aint telling!" for 5 minutes. If the kid offended you come right out & tell what he said.

And IMO "Ask him" is inviting trouble

I agree with that. He's heard the words before.

Now answer the question, weasel-boy.

After you do it your way and the coach sez "he was right, do you:
a) Ignore him.
b) warn him
c) "T" him up
d) laugh/giggle
e) tell him to "shut up".
f) puke on his shoes and/or stare at his pants
g) other

Inquiring minds need to know!
[/B]
Again, the kid would normally have to go much further than a whispered "bul****" before he gets my attention. But let's say I'm in a bad mood & I've had enough, and it works out as you say it might (which it might, which is why I don't have such a touchy trigger btw).

Then my answer is still it depends, although I'm really leaning towards d) laugh/giggle.

But you? You get e) tell him to "shut up".
[/B][/QUOTE]Close. STFU.


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