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JCrow Mon Jan 16, 2006 01:01pm

This weekend I had a player dribble the ball off the toe of her sneaker. It bounced straight up and she continued her dribble normally. It wasn't an advantage/disadvanatge situation, I no-called it.

Is it technically a Violation as the ball does not conatct the floor?

BktBallRef Mon Jan 16, 2006 01:13pm

It's not a violation just because the ball doesn't hit the floor.

Junker Mon Jan 16, 2006 01:31pm

Good no call. I'm sure some well informed parents and coaches let you know it should have been a kick!

coachgbert Mon Jan 16, 2006 01:36pm

It's not a kick. I was informed yesterday at my 4th grade girls game by the other coach that it was a travel and that I was darn lucky the officials didn't notice it! He also wanted a carry for a girl of mine that dribbled it above her head. "If it's above shoulder height it's a carry!".

I thought it was funny, in a sad sort of way.

Coach GBert

Junker Mon Jan 16, 2006 01:43pm

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Originally posted by coachgbert
It's not a kick. I was informed yesterday at my 4th grade girls game by the other coach that it was a travel and that I was darn lucky the officials didn't notice it! He also wanted a carry for a girl of mine that dribbled it above her head. "If it's above shoulder height it's a carry!".

I thought it was funny, in a sad sort of way.

Coach GBert

Isn't it great to get all this help? It's amazing what they think they know. I teach 5th grade and once in a while when we have a bit of free time we go over questions from the test. I feel I'm doing my small part to build more informed fans.

Jurassic Referee Mon Jan 16, 2006 03:12pm

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Originally posted by BktBallRef
It's not a violation just because the ball doesn't hit the floor.
Soooooo.....can you dribble the ball down the floor offa your knee, just like those furrin' soccer players? That's legal too?

Um, and ,uh, what about rule 4-15-2? Didn't the dribbler touch the ball <b>twice</b> in the air before it hit the floor? :D

Back In The Saddle Tue Jan 17, 2006 01:03am

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:

Originally posted by BktBallRef
It's not a violation just because the ball doesn't hit the floor.
Soooooo.....can you dribble the ball down the floor offa your knee, just like those furrin' soccer players? That's legal too?

Um, and ,uh, what about rule 4-15-2? Didn't the dribbler touch the ball <b>twice</b> in the air before it hit the floor? :D

Did she? What about 4-4-4? "A ball which touches a player or an official is the same as the ball touching the floor at that individual's location." :D

IREFU2 Tue Jan 17, 2006 09:13am

I would say that the foot is part of the floor in that case.

JCrow Tue Jan 17, 2006 09:23am

Jurasic hit upon my intended point. I knew it definitely wasn't a kick. That squirmy part of my brain that generates bad calls was flashing "Double-Dribble" but the "Normal" part of my brain was able to over-ride the expulsion of air based on the "Don't Call It Unless You're Sure Theory".

bob jenkins Tue Jan 17, 2006 10:12am

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Originally posted by JCrow
Jurasic hit upon my intended point. I knew it definitely wasn't a kick. That squirmy part of my brain that generates bad calls was flashing "Double-Dribble" but the "Normal" part of my brain was able to over-ride the expulsion of air based on the "Don't Call It Unless You're Sure Theory".
Wow. Based on reading your posts here, I'm surprised you have a "normal" part of your brain. ;)


JCrow Tue Jan 17, 2006 11:33am

I'll take that as "constructive criticism".



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