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Chess Ref Sun Jan 08, 2006 10:29am

Tip off. I am Ump. Visitors win tip, go streaking for hoop, tweet "traveling". Coach has a good four year old crybaby tantrum. I administer throw in. Several seconds later partner calls foul on Visitors. Tantrum coach is losing it . on my way to admin the free throws he's PLEADING for calls.

In my head I am thinking oh boy , could be a short night for him or a long one for us.. I am getting players to line up and I hear this loud and proud " YOU Shut up"

Tweet and the T. Apparently partner stopped and talked after reporting the foul and coach got to sit down all night. Time elapsed 12 seconds. Thats right 7 minutes and 48 seconds left in the 1st quarter.

Any quicker , non dunking ,non admin T's out there ?

BktBallRef Sun Jan 08, 2006 01:42pm

My only question...
 
What took you guys so long?

fonzzy07 Sun Jan 08, 2006 04:31pm

Ill have to say thats pretty fast. Did he end up staying around much longer??? I bet not.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Sun Jan 08, 2006 04:49pm

May 1996, Hoosier State Games, Girls' 13U Pool Play:

During the pregame warmups I notice that A1 has tape on her ears. I ask her if she is covering ear rings with the tape. She says yes. I inform her that I cannot make her remove her ear rings but she cannot play while wearing them. Ninety seconds later:

Coach A (to me): Why are you harrassing my player (A1) about her ear rings.

Me: I did no such thing. I told her that I couldn't make her remove her ear rings but I would not allow her to play while wearing them.

Coach A: The officials let her play in their game the previous night.

Me: I can't comment about the officials in your game last night, but the jewelry rule is a safety rule that cannot be waived.

Coach A: The game is about the girls not you.

Me: Coach, you are absolutley correct. The game is about the girls and you and I have a resposibility to make sure that the players are able to play under safe conditions.

Coach A: You're an idiot.

Me: Coach, I may be an idiot, but your opponent is going to star the game with two free throws and the ball at the division line while you have lost the coaching box for the entire game.

Coach A: You can't T me, the game hasn't started yet.

Me: Yes I can and I just did.

Coach A: Next, you're going to tell me that you can throw me out of the game before it even starts.

Me: Yes, Coach, that could happen.

Coach A: If you think that you can throw me out of the game before it even starts, you are a bigger idiot that I thought.

Me: I am a bigger idiot than you thought, because you are not longer in the game. Please leave the facility immediately.

Coach A: WHAT??

Me(to Assistant Coach A): Please have Coach A leave the gym immediately.

Asst. Coach A: I can't do that.

Me: Sure you can because you are your team's head coach now.

Asst. Coach A: I can't do that.

Me: Sure you can or Team B will win the game by forfeit.

The entire exchange took less that two minutes and we still had five minutes before tipoff.

MTD, Sr.

Jurassic Referee Sun Jan 08, 2006 05:26pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
May 1996, Hoosier State Games, Girls' 13U Pool Play:

During the pregame warmups I notice that A1 has tape on her ears. I ask her if she is covering ear rings with the tape. She says yes. I inform her that I cannot make her remove her ear rings but she cannot play while wearing them. Ninety seconds later:

Coach A (to me): Why are you harrassing my player (A1) about her ear rings.

Me: I did no such thing. I told her that I couldn't make her remove her ear rings but I would not allow her to play while wearing them.

Coach A: The officials let her play in their game the previous night.

Me: I can't comment about the officials in your game last night, but the jewelry rule is a safety rule that cannot be waived.

Coach A: The game is about the girls not you.

Me: Coach, you are absolutley correct. The game is about the girls and you and I have a resposibility to make sure that the players are able to play under safe conditions.

Coach A: You're an idiot.

Me: Coach, I may be an idiot, but your opponent is going to star the game with two free throws and the ball at the division line while you have lost the coaching box for the entire game.

Coach A: You can't T me, the game hasn't started yet.

Me: Yes I can and I just did.

Coach A: Next, you're going to tell me that you can throw me out of the game before it even starts.

Me: Yes, Coach, that could happen.

Coach A: If you think that you can throw me out of the game before it even starts, you are a bigger idiot that I thought.

Me: I am a bigger idiot than you thought, because you are not longer in the game. Please leave the facility immediately.

Coach A: WHAT??

Me(to Assistant Coach A): Please have Coach A leave the gym immediately.

Asst. Coach A: I can't do that.

Me: Sure you can because you are your team's head coach now.

Asst. Coach A: I can't do that.

Me: Sure you can or Team B will win the game by forfeit.

The entire exchange took less that two minutes and we still had five minutes before tipoff.

MTD, Sr.

That's a righteous ejection, Mark. If more officials would stop putting up with crap from coaches like that, we wouldn't have to read "unsporting behavior" POE's every single year.

Good job.

fonzzy07 Sun Jan 08, 2006 08:30pm

Thats a very creative way of getting rid of the coach. I love it.

Ref Daddy Sun Jan 08, 2006 08:36pm

Wow! Thanks for sharing!

i would LOVE to know how that coach's behavior was effected afterwards. Did s/he learn their lesson or still lurking on bench's all over high schools in America?

Jurassic Referee Sun Jan 08, 2006 08:50pm

Quote:

Originally posted by fonzzy07
Thats a very creative way of getting rid of the coach. I love it.
Mark didn't get rid of the coach. The coach got rid of himself.

Snake~eyes Mon Jan 09, 2006 12:03am

Beat 2 direct Ts before the toss. I win.

Nevadaref Mon Jan 09, 2006 03:17am

Direct T on the head coach at 7:58 of the 1st quarter following a foul call that he expressed his displeasure over. He used language that lacked class.

This T was followed by a 2nd direct T for the head coach during the FTs because he just wouldn't let it go.

That's the earliest DQ that I've ever had.

ChrisSportsFan Mon Jan 09, 2006 12:00pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Nevadaref
Direct T on the head coach at 7:58 of the 1st quarter following a foul call that he expressed his displeasure over. He used language that lacked class.

This T was followed by a 2nd direct T for the head coach during the FTs because he just wouldn't let it go.

That's the earliest DQ that I've ever had.

And I'm sure he was nodding his head when you referenced sportsmanship in the Captain's Meeting.

Stan Mon Jan 09, 2006 05:27pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
May 1996, Hoosier State Games, Girls' 13U Pool Play:

Me(to Assistant Coach A): Please have Coach A leave the gym immediately.

Asst. Coach A: I can't do that.

Me: Sure you can because you are your team's head coach now.

MTD, Sr.

Was this beat to death on an earlier thread?

26 Year Gap Mon Jan 09, 2006 09:47pm

Quote:

Originally posted by ChrisSportsFan
Quote:

Originally posted by Nevadaref
Direct T on the head coach at 7:58 of the 1st quarter following a foul call that he expressed his displeasure over. He used language that lacked class.

This T was followed by a 2nd direct T for the head coach during the FTs because he just wouldn't let it go.

That's the earliest DQ that I've ever had.

And I'm sure he was nodding his head when you referenced sportsmanship in the Captain's Meeting.

Nodding off, you mean. :D

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Tue Jan 10, 2006 03:41pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Stan
Quote:

Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
May 1996, Hoosier State Games, Girls' 13U Pool Play:

Me(to Assistant Coach A): Please have Coach A leave the gym immediately.

Asst. Coach A: I can't do that.

Me: Sure you can because you are your team's head coach now.

MTD, Sr.

Was this beat to death on an earlier thread?


Stan:

It probably was and I was probably the lead beater.

MTD, Sr.

M&M Guy Tue Jan 10, 2006 03:54pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

It probably was and I was probably the lead beater.

MTD, Sr.

:eek:

Junker Tue Jan 10, 2006 03:54pm

This is somewhat related and kind of funny. Friday night I didn't have a Varsity game so after my one freshman game I went to watch a friend work with his new 3 man crew. I went into the locker room to hang out and chat, meeting his partners for the second time. My friend called on his way home and evidently his one partner (who recieves over 20 tournament reccomendations yearly) coached an AAU type team and I T'd him up early in the first quarter of a game a few years ago (probably a weekend tournament). I thought it was kind of funny. As far as a quick T, I had to assess one 40 seconds in once (weekend tournament as well).

RookieDude Tue Jan 10, 2006 06:54pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Chess Ref
Coach has a good four year old crybaby tantrum
IMO...that's when I have a good ol' heart to heart about behavior expectations in regards to addressing the officials. (Call it a warning if you like)

Quote:

Originally posted by Chess Ref
I am getting players to line up and I hear this loud and proud " YOU Shut up"
Are you saying your partner told the Coach to Shut Up?
IMO...NEVER tell the Coach to "Shut Up". (or anybody for that matter)

Again, it's just my opinion...but, if I expect to be talked to in a professional manner...I will extend the same courtesy to the Coach...MOST of the time. ;)

Having said that...if this is REC League...all bets are off.






Chess Ref Wed Jan 11, 2006 12:06am

Coach
 
Nah the coach told my partner to shut up.

dblref Wed Jan 11, 2006 08:12am

Re: Coach
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Chess Ref
Nah the coach told my partner to shut up.
Whack time!


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