When Players Only Have Numbers On The Back Of There Tee-Shirts

Love2ref4Ever · #1 (**permalink**) Sun May 20, 2001, 05:37pm

Does anyone have any secrets To Share With A fellow official, when players only have numbers on the back of there tee shirts and when you make a call you have problems picking up the numbers. Even in your pre-game you discuss this with your partner and he/she is no help! /

[Edited by Love2ref4Ever on May 20th, 2001 at 05:39 PM]

Dan_ref · #2 (**permalink**) Sun May 20, 2001, 08:22pm

Sure. Tell 'em to turn around so you can see their number.

mick · #3 (**permalink**) Sun May 20, 2001, 08:41pm

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Originally posted by Love2ref4Ever
Does anyone have any secrets To Share With A fellow official, when players only have numbers on the back of there tee shirts and when you make a call you have problems picking up the numbers. Even in your pre-game you discuss this with your partner and he/she is no help! /

[Edited by Love2ref4Ever on May 20th, 2001 at 05:39 PM]

Sure. Tell 'em to turn around so you can see their number.

Mark Padgett · #4 (**permalink**) Mon May 21, 2001, 01:37am

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Originally posted by Love2ref4Ever
Even in your pre-game you discuss this with your partner and he/she is no help! /

[Edited by Love2ref4Ever on May 20th, 2001 at 05:39 PM]

I don't know what to tell you. I've never worked with a partner who was too dumb to figure out that you tell the players to turn around.

Love2ref4Ever · #5 (**permalink**) Mon May 21, 2001, 07:16am

It's not allways that simple to tell the kids to just turn around so you can check the number(s) on there backs. Most of the time the players know you want to know there numbers,so they wait until you make the call and see you looking for the numbers and then they act like they are questioning the call so that the official has to circle them to get the number.Maybe this should warrant a delay of game warning.

Kelvin green · #6 (**permalink**) Mon May 21, 2001, 09:10am

If my partner cant see the number I sure can, and if he's looking I will say something.

I have also told the kids if they need to cooperate if they dont there are remedies to take care of it.

BktBallRef · #7 (**permalink**) Mon May 21, 2001, 10:00am

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Originally posted by Love2ref4Ever
Most of the time the players know you want to know there numbers,so they wait until you make the call and see you looking for the numbers and then they act like they are questioning the call so that the official has to circle them to get the number.

Sure, they do that. That's when I tell'em to turn around so I can see their number.

JRutledge · #8 (**permalink**) Mon May 21, 2001, 12:44pm

Take your time. I am sure you are talking about summer basketball because I believe it is illegal to have these type of jerseys during the regular season. But simply do not report the foul, or leave the scene until you know the players number. And if the clock is running or constantly moving, still do not be in a hurry. I would rather take my time then, then be in a hurry and report the wrong player's number and cause further conflict.

It should be that simple.

Brian Watson · #9 (**permalink**) Mon May 21, 2001, 01:11pm

You report fouls in summer league ball??

Been a while since I have seen that.

Love2ref4Ever · #10 (**permalink**) Mon May 21, 2001, 03:02pm

HELLOOOOOOOOO,I said before that my partner was of no help!
Now let's go back, How can we resolve this situation?

bob jenkins · #11 (**permalink**) Mon May 21, 2001, 03:20pm

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Originally posted by Love2ref4Ever
HELLOOOOOOOOO,I said before that my partner was of no help!
Now let's go back, How can we resolve this situation?

You ask the player to turn around.

If they refuse, give them a T.

It's not that hard.

JRutledge · #12 (**permalink**) Mon May 21, 2001, 03:42pm

Depending on the league, yes. And if there is a camp associated with the league, you might have to report the fouls whether they count or not.

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Originally posted by Brian Watson
You report fouls in summer league ball??

Been a while since I have seen that.

Mark Padgett · #13 (**permalink**) Mon May 21, 2001, 04:34pm

I do lots of summer league where there sometimes are no numbers at all and you have to ask their name! In fact, in one game last weekend, one team had three guys with no numbers. We called them redhead zero, short zero and tall zero.

Usually, players will turn around immediately when asked. If they don't - try this: walk over to the coach and tell him the player won't give you his number, so you'll be asking the coach for the numbers on every foul. Believe me - he'll get his players to cooperate.

BTW - you said your partner wasn't any help. What DID he do when he needed a number?

rainmaker · #14 (**permalink**) Mon May 21, 2001, 05:02pm

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Originally posted by Mark Padgett
I do lots of summer league where there sometimes are no numbers at all and you have to ask their name! In fact, in one game last weekend, one team had three guys with no numbers. We called them redhead zero, short zero and tall zero.

Yes, I had a game last weekend with one team had no numbers, we called them red hair, yellow shorts, etc. I'm amazed that coaches don't want to know who's fouling.

I had a game this weekend where the jerseys "hadn't arrived yet." I said, "Okay, you girls aren't allowed to foul until your jerseys get here" -- and they didn't!!!

Dan_ref · #15 (**permalink**) Tue May 22, 2001, 09:07am

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Originally posted by Mark Padgett

Usually, players will turn around immediately when asked. If they don't - try this: walk over to the coach and tell him the player won't give you his number, so you'll be asking the coach for the numbers on every foul. Believe me - he'll get his players to cooperate.

I like that one. Other tricks that work are to just point
at the fouler while reporting ("this guy here,
no not him, the other one, yeah he's the one, I don't have
his number, do you know who he is?") or things like that to
just stop the game until the guy is identified. Or just ask
an opponent, they are always willng to give the kid up!