Direct or team??

[BOBBYMO]

NCAAW-

Out of Bounds play-

The ball is slapped by a defender before the ball is thrown in play; while the ball was still in the ofensive players hands out of bounds.

The T was called..... Does this T go towards the players 5 personal fouls and towards the bonus or just towards the bonus.

This happened today in a D-1 game and looking for your opinions.

[Nevadaref]

Neither Bobby. This is an INDIRECT Technical foul in the NCAA.



RULE 10
Fouls and Penalties
Technical Fouls
Section 3. Indirect Technical Fouls
The following shall result in an indirect technical foul to be charged to a team (coach), player or, in the case of a substitution, to that individual.
(BR-139)
Art. 20. Delaying the game by preventing the ball from being promptly made live or by preventing continuous play. This shall also apply to bench personnel.
a. When the delay does not interfere with play, it shall be
ignored and play shall be continued or be resumed at the
point of interruption.
A.R. 8. After a field goal by B1 with two minutes left to play: (a) B2 reaches through the end-line plane and slaps the ball from the hands of A1 or touches the ball as it is
passed along the end line after the score; or (b) after a warning, B2 prevents the ball from being promptly put in play by slapping the ball away. RULING: In (a) and (b),
an indirect technical foul shall be charged to B2 for delaying the game. When A1, in making the throw-in, reaches through the end-line plane into the playing court and B1 slaps the ball from the hands of A1, without B1 breaking the plane above the end line, B1 has not committed a violation because the ball is in play once it crosses the
end line.

(BR-139)
Section 4. Penalty for Indirect Technical Fouls
Art. 2. Indirect technical fouls shall count neither toward a player’s five fouls for disqualification nor toward the team-foul total.

[BOBBYMO]

Nevada you are correct.

This was really botched up in a Horizon League game yesterday afternoon as the T was also added to the players personal fouls and also added as a team foul towards the bonus.

The player (Best player / Leading scorer) sat out the last 8 min's of the 1st 1/2 as the coach thought she was in foul trouble.

At 1/2 time the ref's looked up the rule and came out and took the personal foul away from her.

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by BOBBYMO
At 1/2 time the ref's looked up the rule and came out and took the personal foul away from her.

I have to admit that when the direct/indirect distinction was still kind of new, I made that mistake on a T for hanging on the rim. My partner and I did the same thing: checked it in the locker room and then at the start of the second half had to tell both coaches what the rule actually was and took away one personal foul from the kid.