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Player A fouls player B...Official reports foul on player D. This happened in my game on Saturday. My best player just so happens was player A. Somehow the official got mixed up and gave the foul to someone away from the ball, which was fine by me. However the official scorekeeper tried to correct the official by saying "didnt you mean player A." My question is is this legal? Can a scorekeeper try to influence an in game official to change a call??
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As a coach who is teaching his players sportsmanship as well basketball, I'd think you'd want the officiating team to get it right. I KNOW you'd want to get it right if the other team's best player had fouled and the officials gave it to a different player. Z [Edited by zebraman on Dec 14th, 2005 at 10:53 AM]
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However, if he asks more than once, we might have a problem we need to address, but that's part of the effort to get it correct. At least the scorekeeper is paying attention. (g) Thanks David
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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I think your mistaken. I have no problem with them getting the call right. I was simply wondering if this was a legal action taken by the official scorekeeper. If its legal then its cool by me. Your right about if the call went against my best and he/she wasnt around then I would want it changed. The official in the game did not change his call...not sure why. If the action taken by the scorekeeper is legal then by all mean I think the call should have been corrected.
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Is there a possibility the reason the official didn't change the call was because there really was a call away from the ball? Is there a chance you (and the scorekeeper) were watching the ball and just assumed the contact you saw on the play was why the official was blowing the whistle?
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Wed Dec 14, 2005, 08:22pm
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For me, it depends on the rapport between the ref and the scorer. I've occasionally (discreetly) given "the look" or asked to 'double-check' a number - sometimes it's changed, sometimes it isn't.
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If you've got a scorekeeper that is so on top of the game that they want to help you get something right, by all means use them.
I saw a situation Saturday night, observing a Boys JV game, before my games. L whistles a foul on B10. B10 had just committed his 4th foul approximately a minute earlier, and I immediately knew this was his 5th foul. So did the player, as he immediately headed up towrds mid-court in anticipation of his eminent DQ. Official forgot the number or something, and went to the other official to try and get some help. They glanced around the players around the key and came up with B15 for the foul, who the L then went and reported to the table. As a result of this fubar, B10 stayed in the game, and B15 ended up with his 4th foul. A scorekeeper as described in the original sitch can be a very valuable asset in a situation like this.
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