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just another ref Wed Dec 14, 2005 01:43am

than a coach that knows nothing is a coach that thinks he knows something. Tonight before the game, chatting with girls varsity coaches, mention was made of the rule changes this year. Assistant remarked that he saw both the new rules called in one game. "Oh," I say, "which two would that be?" He said that he saw the violation for a player going out of bounds for unauthorized reason and also
saw a coach yell "Foul! Foul!" followed by the intentional call. "Oh," I say, "that was a rule change this year?" "Yep, now when a coach yells 'Foul!' it's an automatic intentional." I just said, "Hmmm."

WHERE IN THE WORLD DID HE GET THE IDEA THAT THIS WAS A RULE, LET ALONE A NEW RULE THIS YEAR???


The good news is that apparently he read the points of emphasis, perhaps? The bad news is that apparently he managed to turn this one 180 degrees in his mind.

'05-'06 POE 3. B. ....a coach who yells "Foul!' instructions to his or her team does not mean the ensuing foul is "automatically" an intentional foul....

tjones1 Wed Dec 14, 2005 02:46am

Even though it was addressed, I've noticed that coaches are now using signal words to foul. As I recall, one team uses "Silver."

Nevadaref Wed Dec 14, 2005 02:51am

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Originally posted by just another ref
than a coach that knows nothing is a coach that thinks he knows something. Tonight before the game, chatting with girls varsity coaches, mention was made of the rule changes this year. Assistant remarked that he saw both the new rules called in one game. "Oh," I say, "which two would that be?" He said that he saw the violation for a player going out of bounds for unauthorized reason and also
saw a coach yell "Foul! Foul!" followed by the intentional call. "Oh," I say, "that was a rule change this year?" "Yep, now when a coach yells 'Foul!' it's an automatic intentional." I just said, "Hmmm."

WHERE IN THE WORLD DID HE GET THE IDEA THAT THIS WAS A RULE, LET ALONE A NEW RULE THIS YEAR???


The good news is that apparently he read the points of emphasis, perhaps? The bad news is that apparently he managed to turn this one 180 degrees in his mind.

'05-'06 POE 3. B. ....a coach who yells "Foul!' instructions to his or her team does not mean the ensuing foul is "automatically" an intentional foul....


The NFHS is the one which has done the 180 here. A few years ago, 2000-01 I believe, the NFHS put out a comment that the coach yelling to foul WAS an indicator of an intentional foul.

This season they reversed their stance.

ChrisSportsFan Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:35am

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Originally posted by tjones1
Even though it was addressed, I've noticed that coaches are now using signal words to foul. As I recall, one team uses "Silver."
True, I've heard "red", "black", "go for the ball", "we need it". I'm sure there have been others but these stick out.

rainmaker Wed Dec 14, 2005 01:15pm

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Originally posted by ChrisSportsFan
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Originally posted by tjones1
Even though it was addressed, I've noticed that coaches are now using signal words to foul. As I recall, one team uses "Silver."
True, I've heard "red", "black", "go for the ball", "we need it". I'm sure there have been others but these stick out.

The classic around here is "Bananas! Bananas!" ALthough i think the coach who used that one has retired.

Mark Padgett Wed Dec 14, 2005 09:14pm

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Originally posted by rainmaker
The classic around here is "Bananas! Bananas!" ALthough i think the coach who used that one has retired.
You're right Juulie. Every time he yelled that it made me lav out loud.

That's an inside joke for Juulie.

refnrev Wed Dec 14, 2005 09:44pm

[QUOTE]Originally posted by just another ref
[B]than a coach that knows nothing is a coach that thinks he knows something.
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Wrong! The only thing more dangerous is a mother of 5/6 grade girl with a mouth like a howler monkey in a very small gym who thinks she knows something but knows nothing. Never underestimate that maternal instinct. She's a dangerous beast I tell you! A beast!


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