Team A player is called for a foul during a rebound. Team B puts the ball in play and is in front court running a play when the C stops play and says the table told him that it shoud have been a 1 and 1 free throw. Do we shoot the 1 and 1 and continue or do we clear the lane, shoot the 1 and 1 and resume play.

The lane will not be cleared. Resume play from the ball hitting the rim. (Fed)

JR: rules reference for us?

Edit: So I got thinking about variations of this play. Let's say instead that team B was awarded unmerited FTs. Then, A scored 2 points right near the end of the half on their next possession. While the ball is in flight, the horn goes.

Should I take away B's points and explain to B coach that A gets to keep their points?

I think I just might shut up and realize that each team scored 2 points when they weren't supposed to. Sure, one team lost a possession where they could have scored points, but could and will are different things.

Hmpf. Interesting.

[Edited by JugglingReferee on Dec 10th, 2005 at 07:59 AM]

The last article in R2-10 iirc. Don't haveta look it up.

Did you get that link to the football graphics that I posted over on the football forum for you? Any you can use?

Sorry, JR, Useless Graphics was, well, useless. A friend of mine sent me a Powerpoint Presentation that warmed my insides, though.

JR, Team B is inbounding the ball and team A steals it. Then the C stops play and says it should have been a 1 and 1. Do we take the ball from Team A and let B shoot and continue from the free throw? There has been no change of team control according to the rule reference you gave.

ART. 6 . . . If an error is corrected, play shall be resumed from the point at which it was interrupted to rectify the error, unless it involves awarding a merited free throw(s) and there has been no change of team possession since the error was made, in which case play shall resume as after any free-throw attempt(s).

The steal counts as a change of team control for purposes of this rule.

In this case,

Once A has obtained team control, we have a change of possession. When the C blows the play dead, you would quickly get together, agree that this is a correctable sitch, explain to both coaches that B will shoot the 1+1 with the lane cleared, then resume with an A throw-in nearest where A was then C killed the play.

I would like to know the rule for this. Team A was the last team in control. The rule book says there is no team control durning a throw in. Team A steals the ball durning the throw in. Team control has not changed.

If team A was the last team in control, then it woulda been a team control foul that they committed- and there couldn't have been a one/one. I'm confused at what you're trying to get at, Ben. Can you lay the complete play out and we'll then try to answer it?

JR
Team A was in control. Team A fouled Team B durning a rebound. Still no team control for team B. Team B throws the ball in bounds (no team control durning the throw in) Team A steals the inbound pass. Center Official stops play and said it should have been a 1 and 1. According to the rule you gave me, team A would lose the ball because you said we would shoot the 1 and 1 and play from there. I hope this is clear.

When the Team A player fouled a team B player during a rebound, that foul <b>must</b> be a player-control foul <b>if</b> the A player established player and team control on the rebound before committing the foul. It can't be a one-and-one then, Ben. There are no free-throws for a player control foul. The center official in that case would be wrong in saying there was a correctable error.. Team B would just get the ball back where they had it when the C mistakenly blew the whistle.

The only way that you can have a correctible error on this play, with a team B player shooting a 1/1 is if the original foul on the rebound by the A player happened <b>before</b> player and team control were established. That would mean <b>no team</b> control was ever established. However, as Bob Jenkins said in his post, the steal will count as a change of team control for the purposes of this rule. That's why R2-10-6 cited below is the applicable rule and Juggling Ref's last answer was correct.

Hope I didn't confuse you more with that. :)

Note that the rule (2-10-6) syas "change of team possession", not "change of team control."

JR
There is no team control durning a rebound. It would be impossible for team A to commit a player control foul durning a rebound. My point is team A was the last team in control untill official stopped play because table told him it should be 1 and 1. You said if no team control has changed then you would just shoot the 1 and 1 and go from the free throw. If that is the rule then A will lose the ball.

Ben, you chose Door #2. There's the play according to you and there's the call according to me. The team possession changed on the team B throw-in to the team A steal.

Ben --

I've lost track of the original play, but one thing that will help is if you stop thinking of the correctable error rule as trying to reach the "fair" outcome. IMHO, it's designed so that *both teams* try to prevent such an error, because what looks like an advantage at the beginning (hey -- the ref isn't letting them shoot, even thoug we've committed 7 team fouls) might turn into a disadvantage.