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truerookie Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:07pm

Varsity (boys) game two minutes into the game. What would you do?

ChrisSportsFan Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:12pm

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Originally posted by truerookie
Varsity (boys) game two minutes into the game. What would you do?
Next dead ball, go straight to the head coach (because you already know who he is) and ask him loud enough for his assistant to hear....."who's the Head Coach here?" When he tells you that he is, then remind him that "nobody else should be up and certainly nobody else should be BEGGING for calls." He'll take care of the rest.

Snake~eyes Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:13pm

Depends.

Where's the partner and where are you? If I'm table side I'm whacking him.

truerookie Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:23pm

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Originally posted by Snake~eyes
Depends.

Where's the partner and where are you? If I'm table side I'm whacking him.

Snake, My partner was the T with alot of action in front of him. I was table side (L).

truerookie Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:27pm

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Originally posted by ChrisSportsFan
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Originally posted by truerookie
Varsity (boys) game two minutes into the game. What would you do?
Next dead ball, go straight to the head coach (because you already know who he is) and ask him loud enough for his assistant to hear....."who's the Head Coach here?" When he tells you that he is, then remind him that "nobody else should be up and certainly nobody else should be BEGGING for calls." He'll take care of the rest.

We covered all the POE this year during the coaches meeting bench decorum; coaching box; Administrator present; Medical Aid available; sportsmanship.

RefNVa Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:47pm

I simply tell the HC that if he doesn't control has AC I will T him and you will lose bench privelages. It's never failed to work for me yet, course there's always a first time for everything! :>C

devdog69 Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:52pm

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Originally posted by truerookie
Varsity (boys) game two minutes into the game. What would you do?
In my game, if I see the assistant up off the bench yelling at any official, there will be a technical assessed to the bench. This is NOT a warning situation. I stuck an assistant last night for whining about calls. It was 2nd quarter, 6 point game. He never got up off the bench and I gave the coach a very clear message that I wasn't going to take that from his bench before the T. Tonight he comes up to me, he's scouting, and apologizes and says 'it's taken care of, won't happen again'. I said, no big deal, it's you who had to sit the evening. He said that it had happened before, the assistant sometimes didn't listen to him but had never been T'd. Now that he has, administration became involved and the problem is solved. Maybe so, maybe not, just food for thought...

blindzebra Wed Dec 07, 2005 12:17am

What's the question?

This is an automatic T, IMO.

JRutledge Wed Dec 07, 2005 12:23am

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Originally posted by ChrisSportsFan


Next dead ball, go straight to the head coach (because you already know who he is) and ask him loud enough for his assistant to hear....."who's the Head Coach here?" When he tells you that he is, then remind him that "nobody else should be up and certainly nobody else should be BEGGING for calls." He'll take care of the rest.

This is exactly what I say and do. Usually that stops all comments after that.

Peace

zebraman Wed Dec 07, 2005 12:35am

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Originally posted by truerookie
Varsity (boys) game two minutes into the game. What would you do?
I might tell the head coach to take care of his assistant immediately. I might T the assistant w/o warning. It depends on many things such as how far off the bench he was, how loud and demonstrative he was, and what kind of day I had. (OK, just kidding about the last part).

Z

devdog69 Wed Dec 07, 2005 12:37am

"who's the head coach here?"


This approach is unprofessional, imho. You already know who the head coach is because you talked to him in the pregame meeting. Go to him and ask that he take care of his bench if that's what needs to be done, don't act like an a$$ and go over there on a rampage. That gets us nowhere.

Dan_ref Wed Dec 07, 2005 08:53am

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Originally posted by devdog69
"who's the head coach here?"


This approach is unprofessional, imho. You already know who the head coach is because you talked to him in the pregame meeting. Go to him and ask that he take care of his bench if that's what needs to be done, don't act like an a$$ and go over there on a rampage. That gets us nowhere.

I agree. Quietly tell the coach he needs to control his bench.

Whether or not the assistant gets an immediate T depends on the game situation and your own level of tolerance.

ChrisSportsFan Wed Dec 07, 2005 09:42am

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Originally posted by devdog69
"who's the head coach here?"


This approach is unprofessional, imho. You already know who the head coach is because you talked to him in the pregame meeting. Go to him and ask that he take care of his bench if that's what needs to be done, don't act like an a$$ and go over there on a rampage. That gets us nowhere.

In the situation I described....who was on a rampage? It's just like in business, you DO get somwhere when you ask questions you already know the answer to. Over time, this stitch has played out enough times for me to know that this response works perfectly. Now, if it's not your personality, then don't do it. In fact, I believe you'll get alot farther by working with the HC then sticking the AC and now HC has to sit. You do what works for you though. :)

ChuckElias Wed Dec 07, 2005 09:44am

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Originally posted by Dan_ref
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Originally posted by devdog69
"who's the head coach here?"

This approach is unprofessional, imho.

I agree. Quietly tell the coach he needs to control his bench.


I also agree. My comment is "Coach, your assistant is about to cost you 2 shots and your coaching box." Works like a charm.

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Whether or not the assistant gets an immediate T depends on the game situation and your own level of tolerance.
Agree again. Also depends on the vehemence and/or content of the comments.

IREFU2 Wed Dec 07, 2005 09:53am

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Originally posted by truerookie
Varsity (boys) game two minutes into the game. What would you do?
You should have stuck him!!!!! The only warning he got was in your coaches pregame.


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