I don't think he gets payed at all. I think he gets paid.

Maybe in *your* area he gets paid.

In my area he gets payed.

But that is why you live where you do.

Oh yeah....shut up.

Are you bitter?

I don't know.

Why don't you take a lick & let me know.

Haven't you got anything better to do?

Oh, I forgot. The "send out the exam and answers" season is over, isn't it. You need something to do until it's time to send out next year's exam.

At least get it right. I only sent out the exam. Someone else was providing all the answers.

I'm sure he was. Is there really a difference though between you two?

Btw, do you charge for this little service or is it free for the other....um....people just like you? You know, the people that think the rest of us are stoopid for actually reading the rule book and trying to learn the rules. I gotta admit it really is <b>so</b> much easier doing exams your way.

Keep doing what you do best.

I agree with Chuck. When the ball is in your area it is primary!. You rotate across strong ide because the play is most likely going there. The play may go to the post so if ball is out a ways rotate to ref the post but the reason you are there is because that's where the ball is coming

Chuck-

Quick question for you about the mens side. If the player is dribbling the ball from T's primary to C's primary and you are the C... Do you pick up the player right away??

[Edited by BOBBYMO on Dec 7th, 2005 at 10:35 AM]

Bobbymo, if the ball is dribbled from the L's primary to the C's primary, there will more than likely be many players blocking out the L.
The answer to your question is YES! Who would be watching the ball if the person primary official made things too complicated by not watching it?

If a young official is looking at this thread - please do not be so smart that you don't look at the ball when it is in your primary! I would have to think about some exceptions, but this is generally not a good idea/philosophy.

Correct...I don't think I ever disagreed with that...however, you also agree that you don't rotate and automatically pick the ball up - you stay on the post and when the ball comes in to the post, then you are on-ball. Isn't that what I said?

Sigh...sometimes these "conversations" are just way easier in person than talking to a monitor...plus my kids think I'm losing it!

It's true that on the men's side it's possible to rotate and not pick up the ball. But that will be b/c the ball is not in your primary. In other words, you're rotating b/c the ball is high in the C's primary or the C has the ball and 8 players.

But when you rotate, IF the ball is in your new primary, you pick it up immediately.

One difference that we haven't talked about is that the Lead's primary area is much much bigger in Women's coverage than in Men's coverage. In Women's, you have to cover all the way to the sideline. We don't even have to cover all the way to the 3-point line. For men, if the ball is in the Lead's primary, then it pretty much is in or near the post already.

But I don't think that really makes a huge difference to the discussion. I still think that when you rotate, if the ball is in your primary, then you pick up on-ball coverage as soon as the rotation is completed. Similarly, if you're the Lead, then you pick up the ball as soon as it comes into your primary, and trust your partners to work off-ball.

Chuck sums it up best and I agree with him 100%. When you rotate and ball is in primary you better get it. The post may become secondary coverage...