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Old Wed Nov 30, 2005, 11:12pm
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I saw a veteran official blow his whistle because a player lost his glasses in the paint and then stop the clock and pat his head three times saying "my time" Is this an approved mechanic?
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Old Wed Nov 30, 2005, 11:19pm
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No, patting the head is a shot clock violation.

In a situation like that I will just give the dead ball signal and say, "My time."
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The mechanic I see officials use is the 30 second mechanic. Dont know who started that, but I use it sometimes.
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The mechanic I see officials use is the 30 second mechanic. Dont know who started that, but I use it sometimes.
I would not recommend using the signal for a 30-second TO. What's the other coach going to think? He's going to think that you've granted a 30-second TO to the other team. I think it would be better not to give a signal for something that has not happened; just to avoid any misunderstanding.

Just give the stop clock signal. If you want to verbalize it, you can say "My time!". If you want to use a signal, I would just pat myself on the chest.
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Old Thu Dec 01, 2005, 09:20am
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The mechanic I see officials use is the 30 second mechanic. Dont know who started that, but I use it sometimes.
I would not recommend using the signal for a 30-second TO. What's the other coach going to think? He's going to think that you've granted a 30-second TO to the other team. I think it would be better not to give a signal for something that has not happened; just to avoid any misunderstanding.

Just give the stop clock signal. If you want to verbalize it, you can say "My time!". If you want to use a signal, I would just pat myself on the chest.
Hey, if that's a good get, we should pat ourself on the back.
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Old Thu Dec 01, 2005, 09:22am
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The mechanic I see officials use is the 30 second mechanic. Dont know who started that, but I use it sometimes.
I would not recommend using the signal for a 30-second TO. What's the other coach going to think? He's going to think that you've granted a 30-second TO to the other team. I think it would be better not to give a signal for something that has not happened; just to avoid any misunderstanding.

Just give the stop clock signal. If you want to verbalize it, you can say "My time!". If you want to use a signal, I would just pat myself on the chest.
Hey, if that's a good get, we should pat ourself on the back.

I do verbalize "MY TIME" with that mechanic and I make sure everyone knows it my time! But I guess there is no mechanic written in stone!
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Old Thu Dec 01, 2005, 09:23am
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Take this for what it's worth. A D1 assigner once said we don't have any time outs so to say "my time" is incorrect. There are times we blow our whistle without making an announcement and it is OK. If a kid is on the floor in agony, everyone would probably understand the stoppage without the announcement of "my time."
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Old Thu Dec 01, 2005, 09:27am
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Take this for what it's worth. A D1 assigner once said we don't have any time outs so to say "my time" is incorrect. There are times we blow our whistle without making an announcement and it is OK. If a kid is on the floor in agony, everyone would probably understand the stoppage without the announcement of "my time."
Thanks for the advice, well taken and noted!
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Old Thu Dec 01, 2005, 09:47am
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If a player is down, then of course there's not much necessary in the way of a signal, except to beckon the coach in. But if there will be any doubt as to what is happening, I do it this way: whistle, pause until everyone is looking*, pat chest and verbalize "My time." It's totally against the book, or at least it's not in the book, but it's effective and efficient.

*I don't regard this as "drawing attention to myself" or "making it all about me". I see it as good communication.
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If a player is down, then of course there's not much necessary in the way of a signal, except to beckon the coach in. But if there will be any doubt as to what is happening, I do it this way: whistle, pause until everyone is looking*, pat chest and verbalize "My time." It's totally against the book, or at least it's not in the book, but it's effective and efficient.

*I don't regard this as "drawing attention to myself" or "making it all about me". I see it as good communication.
I don't see what patting your chest & saying "my time" adds in terms of communication.

In the original case, blow the whistle & point to the glasses on the floor. Once they are back on the kid's nose where they belong put the ball back in play. IMO it should be clear even to the goofiest of us what's going on.

As Tom said we don't have any time outs.
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Old Thu Dec 01, 2005, 10:10am
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I've kinda got into the habit of just looking at the scorer and loudly saying "no time-out charged".
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If a player is down, then of course there's not much necessary in the way of a signal, except to beckon the coach in. But if there will be any doubt as to what is happening, I do it this way: whistle, pause until everyone is looking*, pat chest and verbalize "My time." It's totally against the book, or at least it's not in the book, but it's effective and efficient.

*I don't regard this as "drawing attention to myself" or "making it all about me". I see it as good communication.
I don't see what patting your chest & saying "my time" adds in terms of communication.

In the original case, blow the whistle & point to the glasses on the floor. Once they are back on the kid's nose where they belong put the ball back in play. IMO it should be clear even to the goofiest of us what's going on.

As Tom said we don't have any time outs.
At your exalted level of play, I imagine people do understand what's happening. 7th grade girls, and their idiot savant table people, completely clueless coaches and other assorted hangers-on usually need to be told specifically, and immediately, what's happening, and who's to blame.
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If a player is down, then of course there's not much necessary in the way of a signal, except to beckon the coach in. But if there will be any doubt as to what is happening, I do it this way: whistle, pause until everyone is looking*, pat chest and verbalize "My time." It's totally against the book, or at least it's not in the book, but it's effective and efficient.

*I don't regard this as "drawing attention to myself" or "making it all about me". I see it as good communication.
I don't see what patting your chest & saying "my time" adds in terms of communication.

In the original case, blow the whistle & point to the glasses on the floor. Once they are back on the kid's nose where they belong put the ball back in play. IMO it should be clear even to the goofiest of us what's going on.

As Tom said we don't have any time outs.
At your exalted level of play,
PUH-LEEZE.
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I imagine people do understand what's happening.
now THAT's funny!
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7th grade girls, and their idiot savant table people, completely clueless coaches and other assorted hangers-on usually need to be told specifically, and immediately, what's happening, and who's to blame.
At least YOUR coaches & table people can do something well, I generally deal with run of the mill idiots. If they ask what just happened you can tell tell them, or as JR suggested announce "no charged timeout" as the player-ette is putting her glasses back on.
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Old Thu Dec 01, 2005, 03:29pm
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I would guess with idiot savant scorers, they wouldn't need a score book to keep track. Amd, I bet they could tell you the score of the 1939 District Final. K-Mart sucks!
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At your exalted level of play, I imagine people do understand what's happening. 7th grade girls, and their idiot savant table people, completely clueless coaches and other assorted hangers-on usually need to be told specifically, and immediately, what's happening, and who's to blame. [/B]

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